Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
If you're gunna raise PF, it's gunna have to be bigger than .75 with a limper behind. The 'standard' there would be 1.25
Point taken, I was going 3bb+limpers at the time, don't know why this one's .75.

Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
I fold to the 3-bet preflop. Too expensive to hunt for a flush/2pr and you're not making anything significant from TPNK.
Too expensive? The CO is calling this 90+% of the time. I'm getting better than 4:1. The implied odds are really good here.

Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
On the flop, I don't think you're good here very often in a 4-way where nobody's folding. Someone's got a better kicker than a 4 or has TT. I know it's hard to lay down the trips here, but that's the dodgy situation you got yourself into by calling the 3-bet preflop.
Now I'm getting better than 6.5:1 on a drawing board with a side pot. JJ-KK is still involved and if draws are in these guys' ranges than the case ace is a small %.