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  1. #1

    Default Line check

    Villain is a solid winning regular running 14/11/3 over 500 hands

    Villain snap shoved the river.

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    Button ($106.95)
    SB ($144.80)
    BB ($165.85)
    UTG ($102.35)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($269.95)
    MP1 ($101.50)
    MP2 ($110.25)
    MP3 ($99.10)
    CO ($100)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, Q
    1 fold, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4, 1 fold, MP3 calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds

    Flop: ($17.50) 2, 7, A (4 players)
    Hero bets $12, MP1 calls $12, 2 folds

    Turn: ($41.50) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $18, Hero calls $18

    River: ($77.50) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $67.50 (All-In), Hero folds

    Total pot: $77.50 | Rake: $3
  2. #2
    Why aren't we continuing on the turn? Weaker hands still call us. Only AK, 77 and 22 beat us. AK is defintely in his 3betting range. I think smaller pairs would not mind calling this flop sometimes because its so damn dry, and this turn card is good news because it lessen your chance of holding an ace. I bet turn/ fold turn. And C/call dead rivers.


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  3. #3
    bettturn
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  4. #4
    LOL, what are you guys putting him on?

    Heroes line if just fine.
  5. #5
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    I actually think you're crushed when he calls you on the flop. AJ- is probably not in his calling range from MP1 vs your EP raise, there are no draws, and he's not calling with JJ etc on the flop given the action, board, and the fact that there are players behind. He has AQ+ or a set here every time IMO.
  6. #6
    Id say he has 77, this is the fold I have to start making to improve my game. Good line.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    LOL, what are you guys putting him on?

    Heroes line if just fine.
    You aren't double barrelling? If not on this board, when?
  8. #8
    by bet turn what i meant was c/f turn ldo. i need to stop reading ftr when hammered :s
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  9. #9
    checkfolding the turn is more exploitable than a tied-up 5 year old quadriplegic
  10. #10
    lol sorry missed that we got trips on turn. c/c... God I have failed at this thread.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSmeets
    I actually think you're crushed when he calls you on the flop. AJ- is probably not in his calling range from MP1 vs your EP raise, there are no draws, and he's not calling with JJ etc on the flop given the action, board, and the fact that there are players behind. He has AQ+ or a set here every time IMO.
    Well, do we muck AK here as well? We don't beat very much.. ah for 60 BB's it isn't a big deal to pay off with AK I suppose.
  12. #12
    Looks fine.

    You can't really fold the turn but the fact that its exploitable doesnt matter.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    checkfolding the turn is more exploitable than a tied-up 5 year old quadriplegic
    hahaha.


    Im also never ever check folding this turn, my standard line would just be to bet half pot.
  14. #14
    Check-raise all in the turn. He most likely has a weaker ace, a flushdraw or he is simply floating you with air.
  15. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovar
    Check-raise all in the turn. He most likely has a weaker ace, a flushdraw or he is simply floating you with air.
    huge fail
  16. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    checkfolding the turn is more exploitable than a tied-up 5 year old quadriplegic
    What range of hands from villain gets to the turn that he can exploit us with? If villain had been last to act this would be different.

    And so what if we turned trips? All the second ace does is make it more likely that we're against a flopped set rather than top pair.
  17. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxiu
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSmeets
    I actually think you're crushed when he calls you on the flop. AJ- is probably not in his calling range from MP1 vs your EP raise, there are no draws, and he's not calling with JJ etc on the flop given the action, board, and the fact that there are players behind. He has AQ+ or a set here every time IMO.
    Well, do we muck AK here as well? We don't beat very much.. ah for 60 BB's it isn't a big deal to pay off with AK I suppose.
    no, against the range I suggested AQ is 23%/11% and AK is 45%/42% on the turn/river. So I'd dump AQ and continue with AK.
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  19. #19
    This is the kind of great play that I would fail to make because I play in a weak game and I would never ever fold to this all in. It makes sense though, because a regular isn't going to call an EP raise with less than AQ. And his line looks like trips or a boat.

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