Line with max value?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($36.50)
Button ($10.10)
SB ($9.50)
BB ($10)
UTG ($25.70)
MP1 ($9.25)
Hero (MP2) ($48.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J
2 folds, Hero bets $1.70, CO calls $1.70, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.15) Q, Q, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.15) J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.95, CO raises to $7.90, Hero calls $3.95

River: ($19.95) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5, Hero raises to $38.65 (All-In), CO calls $21.90 (All-In)

Total pot: $73.75 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Hero had J, J (full house, Jacks over Queens).
CO had K, Q (three of a


Please critique my logic. Obviously its a monster hand but I think sometimes I take this type of spot for granted and don't play the most +ev for the opponents range.

Flop.. No bet because most of the hands I beat will bet here anyways.. 22-1010, club draws etc.

Turn.. I bink and then have to decide which line gets all the money in the most often by the river. Obv if he has a queen its easy but I am thinking there are draws I have to get value from as well. When he raises the turn I am almost certain he has a hand that I can get river value from, ie.77, Qx. I thought raising here looked bad because it shuts out draws. I am worried about scare cards for his Qx hands but I am like 100% sure I stack him if the river bricks.

River- The brick hits. So if I bet does anything raise me? I guess Qx does as well as 77 of course. But I doubt he is ever bluff shoving his missed draws. What hands definitely bet? All of the ones that call or raise my lead out. So clearly in my mind the best play is to check raise. If he was bluffing I still get the value of one river bet, and if he has qx or a worse boat, I have a chance at all of the money.

kind, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $70.75

Most hands you beat will not bet but will call flop

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Most hands you beat will not bet but will call flop

My thinking is the complete opposite in this spot. I find it's more likely a weaker hand than JJ will bet when checked to here than call when facing a bet.

Def c-bet flop and as played prob just CIB on turn but it doesn't really matter since he's screaming strength and you'd have to really mess up not to get his stack. If he is raising on the turn with a draw (which is rare but possible) minraising gets more money in the pot when he still thinks he has implied odds if he hits and likely makes money as he'll prob just check behind when he misses on riv

Paired boards like that oop are big candidates to get bluff raised on the flop... another reason for my non-cbet. If I check and he bluffs the flop, I have control of the pot.

Originally Posted by Outlaw

Paired boards like that oop are big candidates to get bluff raised on the flop... another reason for my non-cbet. If I check and he bluffs the flop, I have control of the pot.

Check/calling the flop does not give you control of the pot at all. On the turn, say you don't hit your jack and he fires again. All you've accomplished is getting yourself into a reverse implied odds situation.

Originally Posted by WildBobAA

Check/calling the flop does not give you control of the pot at all. On the turn, say you don't hit your jack and he fires again. All you've accomplished is getting yourself into a reverse implied odds situation.

well f'in said

Why do you want to avoid getting bluff raised on the flop??? o_O

Originally Posted by oskar

Why do you want to avoid getting bluff raised on the flop??? o_O

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It can potentially put me in a bad turn/river spot if the pot gets bloated when I am oop... folding the best hand is something I hate doing.

Additionally, it is very tough for him to have a hand he can call more than 1-2 bets with. There are still two streets to get value from later so why screw around with getting outplayed oop.

Also, let's assume villain has a draw, why not make a tiny raise back on the turn? They'll call almost always.

LOL @ all these threads im reading being concerned with getting bluff raised constantly at SSNL FR. Jfc u are not playing 10knl 6m.

Bet flop for value obv. 3b the turn to like $12. Shove river

are there reads somehwere in the op? i'm not being a jackass, i really dont know if i'm just missing them

No reads

Induce imo

min 3bet turn to induce imo

hand is perfect except for flop, and this flop line is fine once in a while anyway...