made flush on turn..ai?

Game #1523481403: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/12/07 - 16:48:56 (ET)
Table "Persimmon" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: moozzii ($43.15 in chips)
Seat 2: LouLatour ($50.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Xelor ($46.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Rolexxvi ($272.94 in chips)
Seat 5: journey75 ($54.70 in chips)
Seat 6: spiritzon ($28.15 in chips)
journey75: posts small blind $0.25
spiritzon: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to journey75 [9d 4d]
moozzii: folds
LouLatour: calls $0.50
Xelor: folds
Rolexxvi: folds
journey75: calls $0.25
spiritzon: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Jd 6d 8s]
journey75: checks
spiritzon: checks
LouLatour: checks
----- TURN ----- [Jd 6d 8s][Qd]
journey75: checks
spiritzon: checks
LouLatour: bets $1
journey75: raises to $2.50
spiritzon: folds
LouLatour: raises to $5
journey75: raises to $8
LouLatour: raises to $49.85 and is all-in
journey75...

Hmmm...it's possible he has a higher flush. Latour limped in EP...I would think for him to raise then re-raise AI he'd have the K or A. Straight is possible, but not SF.

Maybe slow playing a set? Pretty risky to go AI with a flush on the board unless he has a higher one.

i think that his flush is higher than urs.

The way you played this hand you must not like money.

That being said, if ever there was a time to laydown a flush...

I payoff. Without four to a fluh on the board, I pay off with non-nut flushes on non-paired boards.

I might think about laying it down with a good read.

I think it very likely he has a higher flush. Limping from EP then going nuts on a flush board makes it very likely he has one of the AKT diamonds that are out there.
I lost a hand last night almost identical to this.

Originally Posted by Fnord

The way you played this hand you must not like money.

That being said, if ever there was a time to laydown a flush...

you need to splain.

Pre-flop: Meh
Pot the flop
Lead the turn

Originally Posted by Fnord

Pre-flop: Meh
Pot the flop
Lead the turn

why would i lead the flop oop without a spectacular draw? although this is a fine line, i dont think its the best way to play this hand.

leading turn would be okay, but i figured i had the best hand and id see how other people played.

he had a slightly higher flush and i paid it off with my stack.

edit: as to the pf argument, ill call anything remotely suited or connected from the sb. implied odds at this stake are huge.

Have you been watching too much poker TV?

Originally Posted by journey075

why would i lead the flop oop without a spectacular draw?

Because if the limper had a real hand he would have raised. The BB has 2 random cards. In short, neither one has much of anything, probably missed this flop horribly and $1.5 is a nice return on your SB investment.

Originally Posted by journey075

leading turn would be okay, but i figured i had the best hand and id see how other people played.

Ahhh, here is the rub. You've failed to build a pot and probably haven't given enough action for anyone who isn't donating to pay you off with anything less than an over-pair. Hence, you're left with the last desperate hope of the passive nit. "I hope he either bluffs, caught second best or slow played a second best on the flop so I can play a big pot."

Originally Posted by journey075

edit: as to the pf argument, ill call anything remotely suited or connected from the sb. implied odds at this stake are huge.

3-way, nothing pot and no one has shown must of an interest in their hand. I'd rather steal small pots in situations like this. If this was a 5 card draw game, I would seriously consider raising it pre-draw, standing pat with my garbage hand then blast away hoping no one caught trips (because the fish think trips beat a pat hand) or a 1 card draw. But I digress...

I would bet the flop but that's up to you. I like leading the turn for $1.50. If he raises, I would come back over the top, and if he pushes I grit my teeth and fold. Also, I don't like your little reraises. With over 100BB+ on the table, these little raises mean almost nothing and don't get you the information you need. Without a read on villian, I probably fold it given the way you played it.