Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
stop trying to talk yourself into oflding KK preflop to odd action. If this had been the standard bet 3bet 4bet type thing then yeah, i could argue getting away at 150~bbs deep, but not THIS way.
Doesn't this action look more suspicious than a normal 3bet/4bet? I normally NEVER fold KK preflop, as I said, this spot just had the spidey senses going. A nit trying to trap, then all of the sudden OMG I PUSH!!!

I guess the other part discussion is, at what level do you ever consider this? Usually it's not $100 or below due to the stupid pushes you see, but I would think people are smart enough at higher levels not to push AA preflop, and get value from them other ways? Other posts I have seen say never for 100 BBs--well this is 150 BBs. Only against a nit of all nits--well this guy is a nit. So the end-all be-all is....NEVER, even at $1000 NL, do you fold KK preflop?

I was up against AA (nit) and AK (shorty), FWIW...