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  1. #1

    Default My 2 selves

    Tournament Humphrind decided to go into a ring game and left ring game Humphrind at home.

    Please comment on this hand.

    PokerStars Game #714642459: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2004/09/23 - 19:33:17 (ET)
    Table 'Gretia' Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: john_cnl ($11.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: darkd3mon ($3.25 in chips)
    Seat 3: sauliux ($13.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: Humphrind ($8.95 in chips)
    Seat 5: mrdarcy ($11 in chips)
    Seat 6: Matttt B ($16.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: suitedup_99 ($9.45 in chips)
    Seat 8: NYBigB ($13.15 in chips)
    Seat 9: Blade_180 ($27.10 in chips)
    john_cnl: posts small blind $0.10
    darkd3mon: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Humphrind [Kd As]
    sauliux: folds
    Humphrind: raises $1 to $1.25
    mrdarcy: folds
    Matttt B: folds
    suitedup_99: folds
    NYBigB: folds
    Blade_180: folds
    john_cnl: calls $1.15
    darkd3mon: raises $2 to $3.25 and is all-in
    Humphrind: raises $5.70 to $8.95 and is all-in
    john_cnl: calls $7.70
    *** FLOP *** [7s Th 3c]
    *** TURN *** [7s Th 3c] [Td]
    *** RIVER *** [7s Th 3c Td] [4s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    john_cnl: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Tens)
    Humphrind: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
    Humphrind collected $10.80 from side pot
    darkd3mon: shows [Kh Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
    darkd3mon collected $9.30 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $21.15 Main pot $9.30. Side pot $10.80. | Rake $1.05
    Board [7s Th 3c Td 4s]
    Seat 1: john_cnl (small blind) showed [Jh Qh] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 2: darkd3mon (big blind) showed [Kh Tc] and won ($9.30) with three of a kind, Tens
    Seat 3: sauliux folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Humphrind showed [Kd As] and won ($10.80) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 5: mrdarcy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Matttt B folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: suitedup_99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: NYBigB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Blade_180 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  2. #2
    Well played. Once john_cnl called, your hand lost a lot of value in the main pot as AK tends to have the most value heads-up. Nothing you could have done about it though...
  3. #3
    i don't know about your raise of the reraise (although you got all of your money in when you had the best hand). i assume you were trying to isolate the reraiser and were surprised when john_cnl called?

    looks like good straight-forward play.
    i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Well played. Once john_cnl called, your hand lost a lot of value in the main pot as AK tends to have the most value heads-up. Nothing you could have done about it though...
    Thanks for the answer, you perfectly adressed my main question. I know this was correct in a tournament. But a ring game is a different story. We had talked in an earlier thread about creating your own +EV by creating a side pot. This is one of those situations?
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by fishstick
    i assume you were trying to isolate the reraiser and were surprised when john_cnl called?
    Yes. This was me playing right out of a tournament. I didn't want anyone to call, so I re-raised all in. Hoping to scare others off. I didn't, but I had a heads up on the side pot (which a heads up is what I wanted anyway)
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrind
    We had talked in an earlier thread about creating your own +EV by creating a side pot. This is one of those situations?
    That more applies to limit where there are more little oportunities to drive value from a given position.

    Here, you either want John to fold leaving behind money and getting you heads-up for the main pot or make a really big mistake by calling off the rest of his stack. It's really horrible for him to call here with less than AA/KK. Even QQ doesn't have much 3-way equity against your range of hands.

    Good job setting up the lose/lose situation.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    That more applies to limit where there are more little oportunities to drive value from a given position.
    But as I mentioned to Fishstick. I want my AK to go heads up (Tournament Humphrind here) and so by creating a side pot, and for this amount, I am going heads-up regardless. Either john folds and I go heads up against 1 person. Or john calls and I go heads up for the side pot and 3-way for the main pot. Either way I get what I want. Heads up for a pot.

    Tell me what is flawed with this train of thought.
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrind
    Tell me what is flawed with this train of thought.
    Nothing.

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