Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
If they get all-in, villain's range is big pairs, big pairs, and big pairs. 78s is in even worse shape than AQo.
I dont have pokerstove, but was thinking 78s faired better against a range of AK,AA,KK,QQ than AQo.
I thought this as well. From two-dimes, 78s is a lot better than AQo against AA and AK, and slightly worse against QQ and KK. So for the range as a whole, 78s is better than AQo.

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 391672 22.87 1315602 76.83 5030 0.29 0.230
Ac Ad 1315602 76.83 391672 22.87 5030 0.29 0.770

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qh 123893 7.24 1567203 91.53 21208 1.24 0.079
Ac Ad 1567203 91.53 123893 7.24 21208 1.24 0.921

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 384742 22.47 1322093 77.21 5469 0.32 0.226
Kc Kd 1322093 77.21 384742 22.47 5469 0.32 0.774

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qh 483206 28.22 1223243 71.44 5855 0.34 0.284
Kc Kd 1223243 71.44 483206 28.22 5855 0.34 0.716

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 379204 22.15 1327573 77.53 5527 0.32 0.223
Qc Qd 1327573 77.53 379204 22.15 5527 0.32 0.777

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qh 506094 29.56 1185055 69.21 21155 1.24 0.302
Qc Qd 1185055 69.21 506094 29.56 21155 1.24 0.698

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8s 7s 714228 41.71 991623 57.91 6453 0.38 0.419
Ac Kd 991623 57.91 714228 41.71 6453 0.38 0.581

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qh 405624 23.69 1228082 71.72 78598 4.59 0.260
Ac Kd 1228082 71.72 405624 23.69 78598 4.59 0.740