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    Default Okay line with no reads?

    Game #1101949417 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/11/20-01:23:54.5 (CST)
    Table "Basseterre" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 1: spank63 ($276.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: SoulGroove ($100.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: JiYoung ($113.00 in chips)
    Seat 4: gopgap ($33.00 in chips)
    Seat 5: Wolve ($187.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: tallnywrtr ($112.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: farmer t ($48.25 in chips)
    Seat 9: fuzzybear11 ($105.00 in chips)
    Seat 10: B_Rice56 ($130.00 in chips)
    B_Rice56: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
    spank63 : Post Big Blind ($1)
    Dealt to B_Rice56 [ 7s ]
    Dealt to B_Rice56 [ 4s ]
    SoulGroove: Fold
    JiYoung : Fold
    gopgap : Call ($1)
    Wolve : Fold
    tallnywrtr: Fold
    farmer t: Fold
    fuzzybear11: Call ($1)
    B_Rice56: Call ($0.50)
    spank63 : Check
    *** FLOP *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ]
    B_Rice56: Bet ($3)
    spank63 : Fold
    gopgap : Fold
    fuzzybear11: Raise ($6)
    B_Rice56: Call ($3)
    *** TURN *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ] [ Ac ]
    B_Rice56: Check
    fuzzybear11: Bet ($16)
    B_Rice56: Call ($16)
    *** RIVER *** : [ Ts Qs 2s Ac ] [ Kc ]
    B_Rice56: Check
    fuzzybear11: Bet ($30)
    B_Rice56: Call ($30)
  2. #2
    Looks good.
  3. #3
    Hm, I would personally raise again on the flop to see where I really stand
    Considering he is still betting the turn/river means he is not afraid of any of the cards that have come he seems fearless, even trips would slow down on the river.
    I think reraise on the flop would have better defined your hand and saved you some cash. ( im assuming you lost )
    Tom.S
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    I would get as much as I could in on the flop too. It's not like your hand is getting any better and it's hard to not fold the best hand if a 4rth flush card hits the board.
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    Fold preflop.
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    Raise the flop again and hope he pushes. I'm willing to pay off a higher flopped flush here because its so unlikely. The less streets you see before your moneys in the middle the better.
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    Results: villian showed As9s for the nut flush

    I still have mixed feelings about the way this hand played out. I think TalentedTom hit it right on the nose. As soon as the hand was over that's exactly what I was thinking. I think I should have either reraised on the flop, or folded the river. The board shows 4 to a straight, and villian doesn't seem bothered. Looking back, it seems the only hand villian could have that I beat is a straight, which I think is very very unlikely, seeing as villian either chops the pot or loses to a flush (if he does have a straight).


    Consider this hypothetical situation on the flop:

    B_Rice56: Bet ($3)
    spank63 : Fold
    gopgap : Fold
    fuzzybear11: Raise ($6)
    B_Rice56: Raise ($20)
    fuzzybear11: Call ($14)

    How do you play the turn out of position now? Like this maybe?

    *** TURN *** : [ Ts Qs 2s ] [ Ac ]
    B_Rice56: Bet ($30)
    fuzzybear11: Call ($30)

    What about the river?

    *** RIVER *** : [ Ts Qs 2s Ac ] [ Kc ]
    B_Rice56: ???

    On the river the pot is roughly $105 and villian has about $45 behind. Any bet obviously commits me to the pot, but if check and villian pushes, is this an instacall? Maybe bet less on the turn so that we're not so pot-stuck on the river? Thoughts?
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    Fold preflop.
    Uh, hell no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    Fold preflop.
    Uh, hell no.
    Low suited 2-gapper with only 2 limpers, don't see the implied odds here. A lot of potential to be a second best hand.. But maybe I'm too tight from SB (VP$P 18).
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    Completing the SB here with 74s is fine......

    I would reraise that flop. The last thing you want to see on 4th or 5th is the 4th spade with your high spade only being a 7.

    On the turn you have to lead out. Villain's play here can easily be the lone As. Forget the results, you let him see a cheap turn by just calling his min-raise and then checked the turn to him allowing him to get a free river if he chose to.

    If you can't play this hand agressively like you should, you may want to just consider not completing with a hand like this.
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    raise the flop, push the turn if the four flush doesnt appear.
    cry when beaten.
    i think opps play is sloppy to raise the flop imo

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