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  1. #1

    Default Please Help

    The last 1/2 hour just set me back a bit. Any advice on this would be appriciated. I think its just a bad run, but damn, I should won one of these.

    ------HAND 7------
    Game #398719803: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/03/05 - 02:07:48 (EST)
    Table "Penn Yan" Seat 9 is the button.
    Seat 1: HoopsInt ($12.25 in chips)
    Seat 2: nottocer1 ($89.44 in chips)
    Seat 3: Riverc ($103.25 in chips)
    Seat 4: arosia ($31 in chips)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 ($98.75 in chips)
    Seat 6: smokin ($22 in chips)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 ($37.50 in chips)
    Seat 8: BSampson ($40.75 in chips)
    Seat 9: STP2821 ($31 in chips)
    Seat 10: Will20063 ($8.60 in chips)
    Will20063: posts small blind $0.50
    HoopsInt: posts big blind $1
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Cavalry21 [Kd Ks]
    nottocer1: calls $1
    Riverc: folds
    arosia: calls $1
    Cavalry21: raises to $3
    smokin: folds
    jotaele1: folds
    BSampson: folds
    STP2821: folds
    Will20063: folds
    HoopsInt: folds
    nottocer1: calls $2
    arosia: calls $2
    ----- FLOP ----- [4h Qh 2h]
    nottocer1: checks
    arosia: checks
    Cavalry21: bets $10
    nottocer1: raises to $86.44 and is all-in
    arosia: folds
    Cavalry21: folds
    Returned uncalled bets $76.44 to nottocer1
    nottocer1: doesn't show hand
    nottocer1 collected $29 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot $30.50 Main pot $29 Rake $1.50
    Board [4h Qh 2h]
    Seat 1: HoopsInt (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Riverc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: arosia folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: smokin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: BSampson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: STP2821 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 10: Will20063 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    ------HAND 10------
    Game #398724863: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/03/05 - 02:12:43 (EST)
    Table "Penn Yan" Seat 2 is the button.
    Seat 1: HoopsInt ($10.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: nottocer1 ($103.44 in chips)
    Seat 3: Riverc ($103.75 in chips)
    Seat 4: arosia ($14 in chips)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 ($84.75 in chips)
    Seat 6: smokin ($49.10 in chips)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 ($33.50 in chips)
    Seat 8: BSampson ($40.75 in chips)
    Seat 9: STP2821 ($31 in chips)
    Riverc: posts small blind $0.50
    arosia: posts big blind $1
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Cavalry21 [As Qs]
    Cavalry21: raises to $5
    smokin: folds
    jotaele1: calls $5
    BSampson: folds
    STP2821: folds
    HoopsInt: folds
    nottocer1: folds
    Riverc: folds
    arosia: folds
    ----- FLOP ----- [5c 9c Qh]
    Cavalry21: bets $11
    jotaele1: raises to $28.50 and is all-in
    Cavalry21: calls $17.50
    ----- TURN ----- [5c 9c Qh][Jc]
    ----- RIVER ----- [5c 9c Qh Jc][Kc]
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    jotaele1: shows [8c 8d] (A Flush, King high)
    Cavalry21: shows [As Qs] (A Pair of Queens, Ace high)
    jotaele1 collected $65.50 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot $68.50 Main pot $65.50 Rake $3
    Board [5c 9c Qh Jc Kc]
    Seat 1: HoopsInt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: nottocer1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Riverc (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: arosia (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 lost
    Seat 6: smokin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 showed [8c 8d] and won ($65.50) with A Flush, King high
    Seat 8: BSampson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: STP2821 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    ------HAND 17------
    Game #398733993: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/03/05 - 02:19:50 (EST)
    Table "Penn Yan" Seat 9 is the button.
    Seat 1: HoopsInt ($8.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: nottocer1 ($99.44 in chips)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 ($47.25 in chips)
    Seat 6: smokin ($58.85 in chips)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 ($63.50 in chips)
    Seat 8: BSampson ($39.25 in chips)
    Seat 9: STP2821 ($45.50 in chips)
    HoopsInt: posts small blind $0.50
    nottocer1: posts big blind $1
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Cavalry21 [Qh Qs]
    Cavalry21: raises to $3
    smokin: calls $3
    y-neekoo joins the table at seat #3
    jotaele1: folds
    BSampson: folds
    STP2821: calls $3
    HoopsInt: folds
    nottocer1: folds
    ----- FLOP ----- [4h 7s 5s]
    Cavalry21: bets $10
    smokin: calls $10
    STP2821: folds
    ----- TURN ----- [4h 7s 5s][2s]
    Cavalry21: checks
    smokin: bets $5
    Cavalry21: calls $5
    ----- RIVER ----- [4h 7s 5s 2s][7d]
    Cavalry21: checks
    smokin: bets $40.85 and is all-in
    Dale2710 joins the table at seat #4
    Cavalry21: folds
    Returned uncalled bets $40.85 to smokin
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    smokin: shows [4d 4c] (A Full House, Fours full of Sevens)
    smokin collected $38.50 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot $40.50 Main pot $38.50 Rake $2
    Board [4h 7s 5s 2s 7d]
    Seat 1: HoopsInt (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: nottocer1 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 folded on the River
    Seat 6: smokin showed [4d 4c] and won ($38.50) with A Full House, Fours full of Sevens
    Seat 7: jotaele1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: BSampson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: STP2821 (button) folded on the Flop

    ------HAND 24------
    Game #398743283: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/03/05 - 02:29:21 (EST)
    Table "Penn Yan" Seat 7 is the button.
    Seat 2: nottocer1 ($95.44 in chips)
    Seat 3: y-neekoo ($96 in chips)
    Seat 4: Dale2710 ($38.25 in chips)
    Seat 5: Cavalry21 ($26.75 in chips)
    Seat 6: smokin ($92.85 in chips)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 ($73.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: BSampson ($38.25 in chips)
    Seat 9: STP2821 ($40.50 in chips)
    BSampson: posts small blind $0.50
    STP2821: posts big blind $1
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Cavalry21 [Kc Ad]
    nottocer1: folds
    y-neekoo: folds
    nottocer1 leaves the table
    Dale2710: calls $1
    Cavalry21: raises to $4
    smokin: folds
    jotaele1: folds
    BSampson: folds
    STP2821: folds
    Dale2710: calls $3
    ----- FLOP ----- [Kh Ts 8h]
    Dale2710: bets $1
    Cavalry21: raises to $22.75 and is all-in
    Dale2710: calls $21.75
    ----- TURN ----- [Kh Ts 8h][4c]
    ----- RIVER ----- [Kh Ts 8h 4c][8s]
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    Cavalry21: shows [Kc Ad] (Two Pairs, Kings and Eights, Ace high)
    Dale2710: shows [8d Th] (A Full House, Eights full of Tens)
    Dale2710 collected $52.25 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot $55 Main pot $52.25 Rake $2.75
    Board [Kh Ts 8h 4c 8s]
    Seat 3: y-neekoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Dale2710 showed [8d Th] and won ($52.25) with A Full House, Eights full of Tens
    Seat 6: smokin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: jotaele1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: BSampson (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: STP2821 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. #2
    I like your discipline at folding when you're probably beat, even if you had a great starting hand. Here are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

    Hand 7: I'd be interested in knowing a bit more about how this guy plays. If he pushes when he flops a flush, it's costing him a ton of money in potential earnings. Few are the players who would do this and play decent elsewhere. That said, there are certainly some idiots at the micros. No much you can do about it. IF you think this guy has his head on straight, you'll want to call something like this as he may be trying to scare out people with one heart who are drawing to a flush.

    Hand 10: Bad beat, pure and simple. He caught two runners to make one of the two possible ways he could win. Shake it off. You did nothing wrong.

    Hand 17: When he called your flop bet, you should have known something was up. And you did. You called his relatively small bet (with several outs to the range of hands that would likely beat you...trips of something being the most likely to call a preflop raise and hit this flop) and folded to the large one. There's no way to get away from this type of thing and you played it fine.

    Hand 24: Tough beat. I don't know what would have possessed this guy to play these cards to your raise unless your table image is horrible. Even then...he got really lucky. Tough break.

    One observation is that you seem to vary your raises based on the strength of your hand. That can be fine post flop, but preflop you're giving away information to other players for free. They may well start to pick up on "AK is worth $4; QQ is worth $3". Best (starting out especially) to pick a number in relation to the blinds and only vary it if too many people at the table are calling (or in some cases too few).
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  3. #3
    Thanks for the help, looking at it again, I'm not sure I'd play it any different. As for the varied raises, $3 bets were getting 5-7 callers every time, so I was trying some slightly bigger to see where the right point was to isolate, but not too much.

    As for how the guy played the first hand, I hadn't been at the table for a full orbit, so I didn't know either. I actually thought even if he didn't have the flush, he probably had the A, and so he had 12 outs against me which is ~54% I think and not worth the call, because he could already have it too.

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