Quote Originally Posted by LimpinAintEZ
I've actually noticed that in this particular situation (you have someone covered by a lot, and the pot size is a little bit less than their stack) terrible players are more likely to call you if you just shove, than if you make a normal sized bet. It's like their logic is "I'm not letting this bully push me around, OK I call with my straight draw!"

So basically I think this statement
You're only getting calls from hands that beat you
is completely wrong and I'd be willing to bet that this guy called all-in on a draw

This is a highly coordinated board - You have a gut shot and backdoor flush with top pair, good kicker - I don't like the play - I won't say it sucks because there are some good reasons that the others are making - My thinking here is if the players are so bad (like you said, Godawful bad...?) then why not wait until an even better situation...? From what I have read the Euro players love to gamble, so why not make the same push when your hand is even better...? Like you hit a set, or have the nut draw - I just think there are better situations to go for, especially if your against very loose players -
partially agree

If i have an edge and push it hard even if its only 5to20% isnt that +ev for me to make these guys gambOOL ?

Id argue it is.