Standard?

50NL at UB. 10max table.

I buy in with $25, am currently sitting on $30.
BB has $12 and is a loose nit (which is why he only has $12)
Button has $40 or so. Don't have too many reads, but I know he will continue in a pot with marginal hands and TPTK

Late position, I get dealt :Qs: :Ts:. Pot has not been raised so i make it 3xbb to go. Get calls from button, BB and 2 other limpers.

Flop comes :Js:
BB raises $1.5 or so. 2 folds. I raise to $4. Button cold calls, BB pushes. I call knowing button will call. Button calls.

Turn is blank. Pot is ~$38, i have about $17 left.

I push....

standard? Are all my outs live?
what about if we assume my Q is also live as an out?
What do my opps have?
+EV?

thanks

You should give all preflop action because it's very confusing.

First off you are only 60bb deep which makes hands like QTs (insert random suited/connected garbage, small pairs, etc) drop in value big-time. Here's a situation where it's probably better to just limp into the pot. And regardless of what you are holding, a 3x raise with multiple limpers already in the pot is just way too small.

BB BETS $1.50, you should make a substantial raise here to much more then $4 and try to get it allin on this flop. When the action gets back around to you, put the rest in.

My standard raise is 3-4xBB on a passive table even with limpers. This lets me control the pot size and costs my cont. bets less; that being said I usually play 6max where I can get away with stealing pots a lot more and where I often raise any suited connector etc to get my image going...

Why are you buying in short?

Phase I'm going through. For some reason I seem to be getting more action buying in short and giving myself a shit image than buying in full and giving myself a shit image. I usually get $5-10 worth of steals before people stop giving me respect; been leaving with 3-4x my buyin quite often recently.

It probably wont last (this phase), just still experimenting with the lag/mega-aggro ala rippy style for a bit while I bonus whore...

Originally Posted by Lukie

BB BETS $1.50, you should make a substantial raise here to much more then $4 and try to get it allin on this flop. When the action gets back around to you, put the rest in.

Is there anything wrong with calling and trying to extract value on the turn if you think you can get the BB to call?

Against 2 random holdings I am 60% to win. BB had TJo and button had AJo, so my Qs are also live cards; I've got like 20 outs here...

Why push the turn?

with a short stack, i wouldn't bet the flop.

i would try to have it checked through, and if someone bets i would then go allin

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Why push the turn?

Cos my bet wasnt even 1/2 the pot at this stage. One of my many outs hit on the river so I took away a nice pot