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    Default straight loss to flush.. what you think?



    limp in.. 3 way

    flop


    checks

    i try to steal it
    one caller

    turn:


    i have straight

    guy pushes all in

    so i think he's represting flush

    i call

    shows two pair

    river:


    damn, he wins with flush.. ohwell.. anyway, would you call on the turn?
    villain goes AI
    i call with a set (i have him owned)
    i win pot
    villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
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    Yes. Good play, bad luck (like me right now. Damn downswing)
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    stack/pot sizes? His play is pretty consistent with a low flush, I'm not wanting to put a big stack into what sounds like a nothing pot.
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    Can this example be called drawing dead? It guess it depends on the stack/pot sizes, but I wouldn't call an all-in with a flush draw on board - but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturaltan
    Can this example be called drawing dead? It guess it depends on the stack/pot sizes, but I wouldn't call an all-in with a flush draw on board - but that's just me.
    No, Drawing dead is, say, you are drawing to a flush but your opponent has a made FH....thats drawing dead.

    He had a made hand and was not drawing, the opponent was drawing to a flush as well as a FH to beat him

    He was ahead when the chips went into the pot and got outdrawn......
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    I'd call;if he has the flush I'd think he'd be more inclined to smooth call and value bet/raise the river.Pushing the turn smells more like a semi-bluff on his part(since he has two-pair with outs).You have a straight(granted with the flush draw) so it's a tough call/fold either way.

    Say you fold and find out he only had two-pair.You kick yourself for feeling too scared to call.You call(which you did) finding out you're ahead and he needs to his his 2% hand and bam he hits his miracle card on the river.

    I would've done the same as you;so in these cases you just have to pay him off.
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    his 2% hand

    math > you
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    I'd fold. Even though in this particular instance, the guy was drawing, more often than not, the other guy will already have a flush at this point. Lay it down. Don't forget about reverse implied odds just 'cause you have a straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturaltan
    Can this example be called drawing dead? It guess it depends on the stack/pot sizes, but I wouldn't call an all-in with a flush draw on board - but that's just me.
    you wouldnt call AI against a flush draw?? with trips or straight? he only hits 1/5 times from the turn. thats where you make alot of money.

    I wouldve been drawing dead if he had the flush, but he didnt i was in a pretty strong position.


    Stack/pot size: I called a $7.50 stack into $1.50 i think.. i just couldnt put him on a flush.. even a low one, because one card to come.. he'd be a big enough fav to play slowly, he'd want me in the hand. Well, if i had a low flush there i wouldnt mind the other guy chasing the nut flush.
    villain goes AI
    i call with a set (i have him owned)
    i win pot
    villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
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    i have straight

    guy pushes all in

    so i think he's represting flush

    i call


    you thought he had the flush and you called w/ your straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by journey075
    i have straight

    guy pushes all in

    so i think he's represting flush

    i call


    you thought he had the flush and you called w/ your straight?
    No, he thought he was repping the flush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by journey075
    i have straight

    guy pushes all in

    so i think he's represting flush

    i call


    you thought he had the flush and you called w/ your straight?
    If he says the guy is Reping the flush; I think that means he wants you to think he has the flush but he is bluffing.
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    gotcha. good play.

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