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  1. #1

    Default And these pushes?

    ***** Hand History for Game 1712143241 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, March 09, 22:08:53 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36603 (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 2: casino1380 ( $31.15 )
    Seat 4: TwoEightySix ( $27.45 )
    Seat 5: metfan86 ( $60.55 )
    Seat 6: CattInTheHat ( $15.55 )
    Seat 7: SlappYou ( $24.2 )
    Seat 9: lamad ( $25.9 )
    Seat 10: Hudson24 ( $25.35 )
    Seat 3: itakeumonyYO ( $24.25 )
    Seat 8: Chillin154 ( $31 )
    Seat 1: auwilson22 ( $4.3 )
    casino1380 posts small blind [$0.1].
    itakeumonyYO posts big blind [$0.25].
    lamad posts big blind + dead [$0.35].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SlappYou [ Qc Qh ]
    TwoEightySix folds.
    metfan86 calls [$0.25].
    CattInTheHat folds.
    SlappYou calls [$0.25].
    Chillin154 calls [$0.25].
    lamad checks.
    Hudson24 folds.
    auwilson22 raises [$2].
    casino1380 folds.
    itakeumonyYO folds.
    metfan86 calls [$1.75].
    SlappYou raises [$3.75].
    Chillin154 calls [$3.75].
    lamad folds.
    auwilson22 is all-In [$2.3]
    metfan86 calls [$2.3].
    SlappYou is all-In [$20.2]
    Chillin154 folds.
    metfan86 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 7h, Ad ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
    SlappYou shows [ Qc, Qh ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
    auwilson22 doesn't show [ Qd, Js ] two pairs, jacks and sevens.
    SlappYou wins $19.9 from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and sevens.
    SlappYou wins $16.75 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sevens.


    I limped with QQ, got the raise which was called before I re-raised to within .30 of the stack of the original raiser. The 2 people caught up in the middle figured theyd stay in and called my raise. Then the first raiser figures "hell ive only got .30 left might as well go all in." So he raises for the rest of his stack.

    Other guys call and I SLAM ALL IN, cuz the other guys didnt have allin hands or they wouldnt have limped 2 times already.

    This wasnt all planned exactly like that, but the entire table was playing like a bunch of pussies, with 12 people limping preflop every time and checking around and around to the river before some guy with Q9 won 1.90. It seemed like they werent too confident in their hands and I wanted to get Ax out of there. So I hoped for a couple folds and extra dead money which is exactly what I got.

    What do you think? Am I delusional?
  2. #2
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    I don't like it.

    Limping with QQ (Not exactly the monster overpair that KK or AA is (over flops 50% of the time)) behind another limper is a being a bit wasteful of QQ. Though it does add deception to a set that you may flop. You'll be in trouble with a lot of flops and action with QQ as the overpair.

    Unless you play it "No set, no bet." you'll get yourself into a sticky situation here a lot.

    Just leading out with QQ at these stakes would be effective and less risky.

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  3. #3
    Good point. I think I was planning on the no set no bet thing that you mentioned because I was doing homework at the time until I stopped and looked at all the action. But the thing is that at the stakes I play at deception is not worth giving up opening with the queens. I honestly think im getting superstitious with the bitches because every time I raise with em I watch an AK flop.
  4. #4
    Limping with qq really not recommended. I would have thrown out a decent sized raise here. rilla' pretty much layed it out for you. I'm just glad the hand worked out well for you.
  5. #5
    How about this 6max push?

    ***** Hand History for Game 1715330519 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 16:29:26 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36940 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: jerseyjoe21 ( $27.88 )
    Seat 3: Ramsey ( $21.4 )
    Seat 5: harmonjazz ( $58.08 )
    Seat 8: tigerwoods1 ( $16 )
    Seat 10: Ell3nLN ( $25.35 )
    Seat 6: SlappYou ( $24.75 )
    SlappYou posts small blind [$0.1].
    tigerwoods1 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SlappYou [ 2s Js ]
    tigerwoods1: its pp
    Ell3nLN calls [$0.25].
    jerseyjoe21 calls [$0.25].
    Ramsey folds.
    harmonjazz calls [$0.25].
    SlappYou calls [$0.15].
    tigerwoods1 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 9s, 8s ]
    SlappYou bets [$1].
    tigerwoods1 folds.
    Ell3nLN calls [$1].
    harmonjazz: yep
    jerseyjoe21 calls [$1].
    harmonjazz calls [$1].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
    tigerwoods1: i hope i dont get em again
    tigerwoods1: lol
    SlappYou bets [$5].
    Ell3nLN raises [$10].
    jerseyjoe21 folds.
    harmonjazz folds.
    SlappYou is all-In [$18.5]
    Ell3nLN calls [$13.5].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
    Ell3nLN shows [ 5s, 3s ] a flush, nine high.
    SlappYou shows [ 2s, Js ] a flush, jack high.
    SlappYou wins $50.25 from the main pot with a flush, jack high with jack kicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
    How about this 6max push?

    ***** Hand History for Game 1715330519 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 10, 16:29:26 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36940 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: jerseyjoe21 ( $27.88 )
    Seat 3: Ramsey ( $21.4 )
    Seat 5: harmonjazz ( $58.08 )
    Seat 8: tigerwoods1 ( $16 )
    Seat 10: Ell3nLN ( $25.35 )
    Seat 6: SlappYou ( $24.75 )
    SlappYou posts small blind [$0.1].
    tigerwoods1 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SlappYou [ 2s Js ]
    tigerwoods1: its pp
    Ell3nLN calls [$0.25].
    jerseyjoe21 calls [$0.25].
    Ramsey folds.
    harmonjazz calls [$0.25].
    SlappYou calls [$0.15].
    tigerwoods1 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 9s, 8s ]
    SlappYou bets [$1].
    tigerwoods1 folds.
    Ell3nLN calls [$1].
    harmonjazz: yep
    jerseyjoe21 calls [$1].
    harmonjazz calls [$1].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
    tigerwoods1: i hope i dont get em again
    tigerwoods1: lol
    SlappYou bets [$5].
    Ell3nLN raises [$10].
    jerseyjoe21 folds.
    harmonjazz folds.
    SlappYou is all-In [$18.5]
    Ell3nLN calls [$13.5].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
    Ell3nLN shows [ 5s, 3s ] a flush, nine high.
    SlappYou shows [ 2s, Js ] a flush, jack high.
    SlappYou wins $50.25 from the main pot with a flush, jack high with jack kicker.
    Reminds me of this push...

    Table Rolling Stars (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 3: FurtiveV ( $47.8 )
    Seat 6: kloudstryfex ( $10.56 )
    Seat 2: coweedee ( $29.34 )
    Seat 8: kahn20 ( $20.35 )
    Seat 1: MoneyFunnel ( $22.75 )
    Seat 5: automatonz ( $16 )
    Seat 4: sukadik_ ( $47.7 )
    Seat 10: rsdrums ( $38 )
    Seat 7: liplap ( $24.5 )
    coweedee posts small blind [$0.25].
    FurtiveV posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to FurtiveV [ 3s Ts ]
    sukadik_ folds.
    automatonz folds.
    kloudstryfex folds.
    liplap calls [$0.5].
    FurtiveV: i shoulda charged u for those lessos
    kahn20 folds.
    rsdrums folds.
    MoneyFunnel calls [$0.5].
    coweedee: haha
    coweedee calls [$0.25].
    FurtiveV checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Js, 6s ]
    coweedee bets [$5].
    FurtiveV is all-In [$47.3]
    liplap folds.
    MoneyFunnel folds.
    coweedee is all-In [$23.84]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
    coweedee shows [ 7s, Ks ] a flush, king high.
    FurtiveV shows [ 3s, Ts ] a flush, jack high.
    FurtiveV wins $18.46 from side pot #1 with a flush, jack high.
    coweedee wins $56.73 from the main pot with a flush, king high with king kicker.

    Hope u didn't get raped like me.
  7. #7
    Thats a tough one. I just pushed because I know the players suck and could have anything, and I dont have the read skills to fold a flush J high 6max. At least I was the one pushing. Luckily it held.

    Ok, Look at this hand. I played it so loose - I was on a little tilt. I figured Id just call his raise, but then when the little guy went all in, I figured I had the best of it and considering the limpers I figured I could isolate him with a huge bet...but apparently not.

    ***** Hand History for Game 1717698223 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Friday, March 11, 00:21:39 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36539 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 8: Sleene452 ( $14.8 )
    Seat 10: Jimihat316 ( $62.57 )
    Seat 6: SlappYou ( $50.19 )
    Seat 1: jsugar718 ( $30.86 )
    Seat 5: Molorchus ( $3.67 )
    Seat 3: MarkRob2105 ( $16 )
    jsugar718 posts small blind [$0.1].
    MarkRob2105 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SlappYou [ Kc As ]
    Molorchus calls [$0.25].
    SlappYou raises [$2].
    jsugar718: good hand MOLORCHUS
    Sleene452 calls [$2].
    Jimihat316 folds.
    jsugar718 calls [$1.9].
    MarkRob2105 calls [$1.75].
    Molorchus is all-In [$3.42]
    SlappYou raises [$13].
    Sleene452 folds.
    jsugar718 calls [$13].
    MarkRob2105 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, Tc, Jc ]
    jsugar718 checks.
    SlappYou is all-In [$35.19]
    jsugar718 is all-In [$15.86]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
    jsugar718 shows [ Ah, Td ] a pair of tens.
    Molorchus shows [ 3c, Ac ] a flush, ace high.
    SlappYou shows [ Kc, As ] a flush, king high.
    SlappYou wins $19.33 from side pot #2 with a flush, king high.
    SlappYou wins $53.13 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.
    Molorchus wins $14.26 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

    Usually I wouldnt have put so much faith in his check being a sign of weakness, but thats what I did dammit.

    Let me just promise you guys that Im not a reckless idiot..most of my playing time is just sitting around waiting for good flops and folding to aggression. Most of these hand histories are just my most marginal (if even that) 6max plays. I do get burned at times, but so far its been a slow profit.

    I am in the green so far in 6max but not by a whole lot. Every day I am able to build a stack up to 50-100 bucks at the 25NL tables, but before that I have usually busted a couple times. So, I know its possible to absolutely crush these games. If I quit making some of these big moves (and getting rivered by flush chasers) I think my daily win rate would improve dramastically.

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