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i love it when every time people dont 4B pre, with hands like AK/JJ/QQ (which would be bad here with deep stacks and these positions w/o reads), they start each topic with "i know i shouldve 4B pre, thats probably a mistake", even though they will never in million years wouldve 4B even if they got second chance for same hand. Just funny point/tendencie i see in forums a ton 
vs overbet on the river with deep stacks its tough. i Think both calling and folding are close, depending on different stuff
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