Top pair with flush draw

STAGE #251214871: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2005-12-20 21:27:42 (ET)
Table: ARTEMUS AVE. (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - JENGA28 ($36 in chips)
Seat 6 - HANK987 ($121.30 in chips)
Seat 7 - VIPER2025 ($102.90 in chips)
Seat 8 - ISGODGAYORBI ($38.90 in chips)
Seat 9 - DARRINS25 ($160.55 in chips)
Seat 1 - BO G ($92.30 in chips)
Seat 2 - SKEEN_EFFECT ($128.20 in chips)
Seat 4 - STEVEN112024 ($17.95 in chips)
HANK987 - Posts small blind $0.50
VIPER2025 - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BO G [Kd 10d]
ISGODGAYORBI - Calls $1
DARRINS25 - Folds
BO G - Calls $1
SKEEN_EFFECT - Folds
STEVEN112024 - Folds
JENGA28 - Calls $1
HANK987 - Calls $0.50
VIPER2025 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3d 2d]
HANK987 - Checks
VIPER2025 - Checks
ISGODGAYORBI - Checks
BO G - Bets $2
JENGA28 - Folds
HANK987 - Folds
VIPER2025 - Folds
ISGODGAYORBI - Raises $15 to $15
BO G ???

a solid read would help in this situation, got one?



EDIT: Unless I have some sort of crazy read on this guy I'm folding here and finding a better spot. Too many hands beat you here for this to be a profitable play.

all-in

edit: it's close, IMO. all-in or fold. Assuming your opponent calls an all-in, you are getting better then 2:1 here though, which is easily good enough vs any hand but a set, where you are about a 3:1 dog. Plus you have some fold equity as well, albeit not much since you are facing a short stack. I think the most likely hand you are up against is top pair/better kicker.. all in.

Easy fold for me. He has Set, KT or AA.

Edit: yes, I meant Set, AK, or AA.

Originally Posted by EricE

Easy fold for me. He has Set, KT or AA.

You mean AK not KT right?

You are behind here and the only way to win the hand is to suckout and hit your flush. Is this table aggressive on the flop - because this guy check-raised the shit our of you. If he didn't expect a bet, he's playing with fire by checking if he has a set - which it looks like he does (or AK).

And do you always pllay KTs in EP? I only play it on the button or blinds. I would check your stats on that hand if you have them. Can't be positive.

Edit: yes, I meant a very strong K. AK.

BO G - All-In(Raise) $89.30 to $91.30
ISGODGAYORBI - All-In $22.90
BO G - returned ($53.40) : not called
*** TURN *** [Kc 3d 2d] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 3d 2d 8s] [10c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BO G - Shows [Kd 10d] (Two Pairs, kings and tens)
ISGODGAYORBI - Shows [Ad Kh] (One pair, kings)
BO G Collects $77.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($80.80) | Rake ($3)
Board [Kc 3d 2d 8s 10c]
Seat 1: BO G won Total ($77.80) All-In HI$77.80) with Two Pairs, kings and tens [Kd 10d - P:Kd,B:Kc,P:10d,B:10c,B:8s]
Seat 2: SKEEN_EFFECT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: STEVEN112024 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: JENGA28 (dealer) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 6: HANK987 (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 7: VIPER2025 (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 8: ISGODGAYORBI HI:lost with One pair, kings [Ad Kh - P:Kh,B:Kc,P:Ad,B:10c,B:8s]
Seat 9: DARRINS25 Folded on the POCKET CARDS


The table has been very tight and that is why I limped in with KTs in EP.

Originally Posted by Bo G

The table has been very tight and that is why I limped in with KTs in EP.

As opposed to what? To raising… or to folding?
At a very tight table you need to devalue your assesment of your usual starting hands. As such, KT in EP is NOT a good hand. At a loose table I’ll limp KT easily. At a tight table it is a fold or limp looking for two pair.

Tight and weak allows me to loosen up and push people around.

Originally Posted by Bo G

Tight and weak allows me to loosen up and push people around.

True, but when they start pushing back, it's time to fold.