TPTK against donk + shorty

So, post flop the shorty's flat call didn't scare me much, but the donk's push made me think a little. At these stakes I've seen open pushes with flush draws and the like, so I think it might be a +EV call, though its really close.

CO is 36/10/.6
Button is 85/0/1.3

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($32.30)
MP2 ($18.65)
MP3 ($34.70)
CO ($13.65)
Button ($24.40)
SB ($9.75)
Hero ($34.25)
UTG ($21.40)
UTG+1 ($18.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.5, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, MP2 folds, CO calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.60) 2, Q, A (3 players)
Hero bets $5, CO calls $5, Button raises to $22.4 (All-In), Hero...

Shove because donk could have A3o and you likely have the CO beaten too.

Originally Posted by badgers

Shove because donk could have A3o and you likely have the CO beaten too.

But he could also have a real hand. Basically, how often is this a hand that I beat?

buuuuuuuuuump

his stat looked like fishy, so i call his shove at these low stakes. Probably i'm leaning towards a fold in 100NL or higher.

Originally Posted by pokerfan

his stat looked like fishy, so i call his shove at these low stakes. Probably i'm leaning towards a fold in 100NL or higher.

The stats surely mean way morethan the stakes here. I guess if he's been that passive post-flop for a large sample I could see folding, but I never seem to get a large sample on these guys as they quickly blow their stack and run. So almost all of the time I would call here and expect to see TP > half the time (we need way less than half for shoving to be profitable)

I don't think button feel he has FE against either of the two villains against him. I don't think Button is shoving with anything less than AK here, just don't see the point.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I don't think button feel he has FE against either of the two villains against him. I don't think Button is shoving with anything less than AK here, just don't see the point.

The button has a vpip of 85, you think he understands basic concepts like FE?

I don't think I would get away from this one given the stats.

Originally Posted by badgers

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I don't think button feel he has FE against either of the two villains against him. I don't think Button is shoving with anything less than AK here, just don't see the point.

The button has a vpip of 85, you think he understands basic concepts like FE?

vpip does not determine skill

I'd pay this off. But then again, I'm a pay-off bitch.

Originally Posted by badgers

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I don't think button feel he has FE against either of the two villains against him. I don't think Button is shoving with anything less than AK here, just don't see the point.

The button has a vpip of 85, you think he understands basic concepts like FE?

no, but they understand not to shove without a good hand when a preflop reraiser bets and another player calls. or at least they just dont shove without a good hand because they are toolbox calling stations.