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    Default TT with Board: T44 4, slow down or push?

    Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50)

    SB ($30.05 in chips)
    Hero ($52.50 in chips) (MP1)

    SB: posts $0.25
    BB: posts $0.50
    dealt to Hero :Tc::Ts:
    2 folds
    Hero: raises to $2
    2 folds
    SB: calls $1.75
    BB: folds

    ----- FLOP ----- :Th:

    SB: bets $1.50
    Hero: raises to $5
    SB: calls $3.50

    ----- TURN -----

    SB: bets $4.50
    Hero:

    Be scared of the last 4 here or what? Last time this happened I lost a deep stack to quad 5's
    How do I continue?
    Read on SB player: 60 hands in PT => 33/5
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    i've seen players betting K10 there the same way - I wouldn't raise him yet though - Act like your scared (the next 4 makes it MORE likely he doesn't have one) and just call and then raise the river - don't be scared of monsters in the dark...if he has quads, he has quads - You think he comes out firing the turn with quads though? If so, he's pretty damn deceptive....I think A10 is much more likely (or even another pair like JJ)...i would take my 10's full to the grave there
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    I'd probably call with the intention of getting it all-in on the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimpinAintEZ
    i've seen players betting K10 there the same way - I wouldn't raise him yet though - Act like your scared (the next 4 makes it MORE likely he doesn't have one) and just call and then raise the river - don't be scared of monsters in the dark...if he has quads, he has quads - You think he comes out firing the turn with quads though? If so, he's pretty damn deceptive....I think A10 is much more likely (or even another pair like JJ)...i would take my 10's full to the grave there
    Thanks, I probably shouldn't let a quad over Fh get to me
    ....but AT or KT is not so likely either given that I hold TT?
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    More likely than the case 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Just as likely as the case 4
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    consider that people are more likely to play hands with a T then a 4. He could also have hands like 88/JJ/air that you have absolutely annihilated.

    We also have to weight hands for how likely we think villain would play them this way but basically if i'm beat here i'm going broke every single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Just as likely as the case 4
    fyp
    Won't villain play more hands with a T than with a 4? He's loose, but not maniacal. He could concievably play 43s, 54s, 64s, A4s, 74s, 42s. With a T, he could play AT, KT, QT, JT, 9T, 8T, 7Ts
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    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Just as likely as the case 4
    fyp
    Won't villain play more hands with a T than with a 4? He's loose, but not maniacal. He could concievably play 43s, 54s, 64s, A4s, 74s, 42s. With a T, he could play AT, KT, QT, JT, 9T, 8T, 7Ts
    Good point. I was talking in pure odds terms.
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    I like a call on this turn. It convinces overpair, AT, KT that they are ahead and ensures you're take their whole stack on the river.
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    i like the call here but we're calling any river and never folding.
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    Default Re: TT with Board: T44 4, slow down or push?

    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
    Be scared of the last 4 here or what? Last time this happened I lost a deep stack to quad 5's
    Damn. Kudos to your previous villian for hiding his quad 5s on a 10444 board. Damn.
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    Default Re: TT with Board: T44 4, slow down or push?

    Quote Originally Posted by holdin2
    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
    Be scared of the last 4 here or what? Last time this happened I lost a deep stack to quad 5's
    Damn. Kudos to your previous villian for hiding his quad 5s on a 10444 board. Damn.

    Yes, You see why I didn't see that one comming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    i like the call here but we're calling any river and never folding.
    It seems like the conclusion is to push any river also.
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