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    Default Two Bad Plays with one good read?

    Well, hello FTR!
    Been reading this forum for a little bit but never got around to actually posting much. So you could double this post as me saying hi and proposing a question.
    Never had a losing session in two months on 10NL and 5NL tables on Stars and now after losing 25 buy-ins in 4 days Im on some major tilt. I am taking a break now to evaluate my mistakes since I'm definately doing somehing wrong. But when you think,you're trying to play your "A" game again and fail- it is hard to tell a beat from a mistake.
    Forgive the long intro, now down to the hands.Microstakes .01/.02.Assume you have a read on the Villan- every time he has AK,AQ,AJ-he will either raise 20xBB, or reraise about the same if out of position PRFLP. Will follow up with a huge bet/shove on flop regardless of weather he hit anything or not (hey,its microlimits!)Slowplayed all big pocket pairs so far.

    First hand:
    (Seat7)Villan(SB) posts SB
    Dealt to Hero
    Seat7 calls BB
    (Seat4) Hero raises $.06 to $.08
    Villan raises $.48 to $.56
    Hero calls
    ***FLOP*** [ ]
    Villan bets $4.14 and is all-in
    Hero calls
    ***SHOWDOWN*** [ ]
    Villan's cards in white:
    Villan wins pot with Qh As (a pair of Aces)
    Here I put Villan on AK ,AQ ,AJ(AT would play it slower), giving Villan 6 outs or a runner-runner to make a better hand. Didn't put him on club daw(mistake?),he just didn't seem to chase many flushes.

    Second Hand:
    Seat2 posts SB
    Seat3 posts BB
    Cards dealt to Hero
    seat4 Hero raises $.06 to $.08
    Seat6 calls
    Seat7 Villan raises $3.27 to $3.35 and is all in
    Hero calls
    Seat6 folds
    ***SHOWDOWN*** [ ]
    Results in white:
    Villan wins with ThAh:
    (a flush,Ace high)

    Once again- Villan has either AK(most likely off-suit) or AQ,AJ- if the read is accurate- AKs has these hands dominated.
    So, even thinking that you have an accurate read on the opponent, how good/bad of a play was it? Assuming you have that read, what would you do differently?
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    It seems you have a pretty reliable read as you were correct both times. You played both hands fine there was nothing you could do. You could push him in preflop with the JJ but I am assuming he would call, so it's good you called and waited to see if there was an A on the flop.

    2nd hand is fine as played, you probably coulda gotten away from it if he hadn't pushed preflop.
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    well, i want to hear actually what your reads were.

    Obviously the second hand is standard given the first hand happened, but what did he do to make you think JJ was good in the first hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    well, i want to hear actually what your reads were.

    Obviously the second hand is standard given the first hand happened, but what did he do to make you think JJ was good in the first hand?
    Oh thats easy-before above confrontations he did exact same thing multiple times.All the time he hadA9, AT, AJ,AQ or AK.When he had Aks- he shoved PRFLP once that I saw and AK,AQ,AJ were always played in the exact same manner.

    Second hand was really based on all of the above,not just because the 1st one played out the way it did(or at least I'd like to think so). The Villan made exact same play multiple times during the session and every single time had Ax(x>9).

    I was worried about him having KK/AA(maaaybe QQ) because I never saw him play either of those hands but given that he DID play made hands slower(saw him cbet light with a set (he had something like 88) and a str8(dont remember the cards,but something other than Ax).

    JJ hand - KK/AA would slowplay,given his past slowplays with the nuts.AK and AQ and TT was what I was really worried about,however,given that the villan Has done the same thing many times in the recent past with AJ/T/9- I decided to take the chance on a lower flop. So AK,AQ he would have less than 30% to make a hand,correct me if Im wrong. QQ,KK,AA-would slowplay.TT-although I do not know how much he raises with TT prflp-I would assume a slowplay with a set,besides-the raise PRFLP and FLP looked exactly like the Ax hands that he's been playing all night. And AJ,AT,A9 and lower were dominated by JJ (AND well in his range) unless they were suited clubs.And even if they were suided-I'd still be about 65/70% favorite,right?

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