Two sticky hands. What's your play?

***** Hand History for Game 3743645472 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, March 14, 21:10:07 ET 2006
Table Get Hooked (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Aegir ( $70.58 )
Seat 2: JFL75 ( $53.80 )
Seat 3: option13 ( $35.90 )
Seat 5: GORIO0265 ( $68.46 )
Seat 6: Renton555 ( $58.75 )
Seat 8: bintibinti ( $47.50 )
Seat 10: BonerJamz03 ( $30.85 )
Seat 7: ICantCash ( $35.85 )
Seat 9: KING_LOE ( $55.87 )
Seat 4: snapple154 ( $55.60 )
Aegir posts small blind [$0.25].
JFL75 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Kd Ad ]
option13 folds.
snapple154 folds.
GORIO0265 folds.
Renton555 raises [$2].
ICantCash folds.
bintibinti folds.
>You have options at Lethbridge Table!.
KING_LOE calls [$2].
BonerJamz03 folds.
Aegir folds.
JFL75 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, Qs, Th ]
Renton555 checks.
KING_LOE bets [$3].
Renton555 calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
Renton555 checks.
KING_LOE bets [$5].
Renton555 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
Renton555 checks.
KING_LOE is all-In [$45.87]
Renton555 calls [$45.87].



***** Hand History for Game 3743558310 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, March 14, 21:00:40 ET 2006
Table Table 96108 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pecks99 ( $57.45 )
Seat 4: eigerto ( $61.99 )
Seat 5: TexasAndy47 ( $92.50 )
Seat 6: IslandBluff3 ( $73.39 )
Seat 7: adminmax ( $40.80 )
Seat 10: bvalik37 ( $53.05 )
Seat 9: Renton555 ( $57.65 )
Seat 8: icum4rocks ( $47 )
Seat 2: hugebluffr ( $47.50 )
Seat 3: EdAA30 ( $13.05 )
EdAA30 posts small blind [$0.25].
eigerto posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Kh Qc ]
TexasAndy47 folds.
IslandBluff3 calls [$0.50].
adminmax folds.
icum4rocks folds.
Renton555 raises [$2].
bvalik37 calls [$2].
pecks99 folds.
hugebluffr folds.
EdAA30 folds.
eigerto folds.
IslandBluff3 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 3s, Qs ]
IslandBluff3 bets [$3.75].
Renton555 calls [$3.75].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
IslandBluff3 bets [$10.09].
Renton555 calls [$10.09].
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
IslandBluff3 checks.
Renton555 bets [$20].
IslandBluff3 is all-In [$57.55]
Renton555 is all-In [$21.81]

First hand, I like it. Let the donk call off his stack.

Second hand, I raise the flop. I'm not liking the 3 spades on the board.

there was a flush on the board in the first hand as well.

Didn't notice the flush draw actually. I raise the turn then.

Hand 1-
Standard...Actually kinda boring.

Hand 2-
2 pair isnt good enough of a hand to stack off here. A set or str8 I would but this guy obviously has you beat too often with this much behind.

PK

Is no one worried about the completed flush draw in hand one?

I pulled the call in hand two right out of my ass. It was kinda read based. Villain was pretty lag. He was an ego player who loved to bluff (hence his name). I put him on air.

hand 1: the guy either has a K or a flush, he'd probably do the same thing with both so i think you call.
hand 2: I'd check behind on the river. He's not feasibly going to call you on the river with any hand your beating. But after betting the river i fold to the reraise

Originally Posted by Renton

Is no one worried about the completed flush draw in hand one?

Yes...but with his bet size into the pot due to your check he's raising junk out of frustration or a simple K high str8 more often than not.

Originally Posted by Renton

I pulled the call in hand two right out of my ass. It was kinda read based. Villain was pretty lag. He was an ego player who loved to bluff (hence his name). I put him on air.

As long as you're reads based okay...but this is a tight spot even with a pretty good read.

PK[/quote]

results:

hand 1- villain shows KK, I scoop

hand 2- villain shows A8o ????????? i heart donks! in his defense he did have the A high flush draw, the bluff on the river was desperation I guess.

Originally Posted by Renton

results:

hand 1- villain shows KK, I scoop

hand 2- villain shows A8o ????????? i heart donks! in his defense he did have the A high flush draw, the bluff on the river was desperation I guess.

hand1.
why didnt you bet the river? or were you looking for opp to donk it all in anyway? thus i dont see how your concern with the flush completing is relavent.

First hand, decent-easy call, nice pot

Second hand, perfectly played . Almost every time a poor chronic bluffer bets the flop and turn, then check-raises all in on the river, he has garbage. I debate calling here with AK/AQ unimproved against a lot of these guys, but usually wait til I've got something respectable so as to not discourage them from trying it again.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Originally Posted by Renton

results:

hand 1- villain shows KK, I scoop

hand 2- villain shows A8o ????????? i heart donks! in his defense he did have the A high flush draw, the bluff on the river was desperation I guess.

hand1.
why didnt you bet the river? or were you looking for opp to donk it all in anyway? thus i dont see how your concern with the flush completing is relavent.

I figured there was enough of a chance of him betting it that it was profitable to check.