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  1. #1

    Default Value from quads

    This table has been playing TIGHT. I mean max security tight. I've been stealing blinds and firing when any scare card hits the board.
    Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($49.25)
    CO ($54.80)
    Button ($52.75)
    Hero (SB) ($57.85)
    BB ($50)
    UTG ($30.90)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
    1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

    Flop: ($1.50) 3, 4, 3 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($1.50) 7 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $1, 1 fold, Hero?

    What to do, what to do? Should I call and let him see the river? Should I raise to build the pot? How do I extract max, if any, value from this?
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    lead turn
  3. #3
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    I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
    so I would just lead the flop, mp seems like he's bad but you didn't give any reads on that particular player

    but if people don't expect you to be spewing in limped pots checking is probably better mostly because nobody has anything
    but definitely lead the turn
    if you didn't, definitely raise it and pray he has a 7 he doesn't want to fold
    but raise it small to like 2.5 so if he has pair + gutshot he's more tempted to call or just a backdoor flush draw

    this is why leading is better because you rep way less strength that way
    if you don't raise the turn you probably won't get ANY value unless an unlikely draw hits
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    bet flop
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    flop seems like a dumb spot to lead, but for sure lead the turn.

    ?wut
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    Leading the flop at this table was the worst play to make. Nobody was trying to make a hero play. If the turn was say a suited Q for sure I lead it but the 7 didnt seem that that great a card. BTW I did pop it to 2.50 but BB folded.

    Is there a problem with the hand converter? This was a full ring table, all 9 players were dealt a hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love2Race
    Leading the flop at this table was the worst play to make. Nobody was trying to make a hero play. If the turn was say a suited Q for sure I lead it but the 7 didnt seem that that great a card. BTW I did pop it to 2.50 but BB folded.

    Is there a problem with the hand converter? This was a full ring table, all 9 players were dealt a hand.
    just lead turn, people sometimes just call ace high
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
    so I would just lead the flop
    This doesn't make any sense. If you can profitably lead 90% of limped pots it's because people are always folding when you lead so why would you want to lead when you actually have quads? If this lead were getting action from lots of hands then you should prob stop leading so many limped pots.
  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
    so I would just lead the flop
    This doesn't make any sense. If you can profitably lead 90% of limped pots it's because people are always folding when you lead so why would you want to lead when you actually have quads? If this lead were getting action from lots of hands then you should prob stop leading so many limped pots.
    I probably should
    but yeah some people adjust and start c/minraising me on the flop (which is super tilting since I never have anything)

    so I guess I'll lead the flop against people who may be paying attention

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