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  1. #1

    Default way to passive?

    PL quite loose ringgame. i still have a habit of slowplaying good flops..but maybe i shouldnt here..?
    my first post here btw. dont let that stop the flaming tho
    ------HAND 60------
    Game #913645704: Texas Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/09/17 - 00:48:00 (ET)
    Table "Mira" Seat 6 is the button.
    Seat 1: Betrayer ($47.43 in chips)
    Seat 2: brianlfc ($10.70 in chips)
    Seat 3: KevinM11 ($49.26 in chips)
    Seat 4: J0SEPH ($36.70 in chips)
    Seat 5: jiggse ($17.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: Stealin ($19.70 in chips)
    Seat 7: cptmorgn1 ($28.40 in chips)
    Seat 8: nazztuzzi ($28.71 in chips)
    Seat 9: __ANNA__ ($8.25 in chips)
    cptmorgn1: posts small blind $0.15
    nazztuzzi: posts big blind $0.25
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Betrayer [Kh Qc]
    __ANNA__: folds
    Betrayer: raises to $0.50
    brianlfc: folds
    KevinM11: folds
    J0SEPH: folds
    jiggse: folds
    Stealin: calls $0.50
    cptmorgn1: folds
    nazztuzzi: folds
    ----- FLOP ----- [Ts Qd Ks]
    Betrayer: checks
    Stealin: checks
    ----- TURN ----- [Ts Qd Ks][4s]
    Betrayer: bets $1
    Stealin: calls $1
    ----- RIVER ----- [Ts Qd Ks 4s][4h]
    Betrayer: bets $3.40
    Stealin: raises to $13.60
    __ANNA__ leaves the table
    Betrayer: calls $10.20
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    Stealin: shows [4c Tc] (A Full House, Fours full of Tens)
    Betrayer: mucks hand
    Stealin collected $29.10 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot $30.60 Main pot $29.10 Rake $1.50
    Board [Ts Qd Ks 4s 4h]
    Seat 1: Betrayer mucked
    Seat 2: brianlfc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: KevinM11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: J0SEPH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: jiggse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Stealin (button) showed [4c Tc] and won ($29.10) with A Full House, Fours full of Tens
    Seat 7: cptmorgn1 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: nazztuzzi (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. #2
    I'm fairly new to this site and online play, but heres my 2 cents worth.

    I also slow play good flops, but not on a board that has real potential to beat you; there was a straight and flush draw there. I would have bet to protect the pot - if I won a small pot, so be it (better than losing). If he decided to chase against pot odds, I would note that down on his player notes and make him pay me back next time. On a loose table especially I try not to let anybody chase because I have no idea what these idiots may be going in with on my preflop raises. You got unlucky on the river (otherwise you probably would have taken a nice pot), but it happens.
  3. #3
    every action you took let him catch what he needed. you needed to bet the flop, you want to make the straight + flush draws pay. PL and NL differ in that sense. PL and even Limit require being paid off by the drawing hands. Your big mistake is calling a pot sized raise on a paired board with 3 to a straight and 3 to a flush.
    Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
    Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
  4. #4
    Here's how I would have played this different, and I'm not sure there was much you can do here to avoid the result:

    1. limp KQos from early position, its just not strong enough for a raise (and fold it to a raise)

    2. bet .50 on the flop (you want to keep him in and get value so you start him small to build the pot - also there are two nasty draws staring at you)

    3. the 4 looks like a blank so bet 1/2 the pot - he will call here but he may raise - if he raises you may be able to put him on the boat when..

    4. the second 4 looks like a blank too but if he overbets it you may be able to let it go give the action in step 3
  5. #5
    yes i realise now that it was stupid 2 slowplay this..since it was such a dangerous flop.. at least i learned alot from it, thnx to your answers i wont slowplay those hands again. the fishes call me anyway so why not bet for some serious value? (and hope 2 get a bit lucky)
  6. #6
    I didn't even realize you raised preflop... Never check the flop when you raised preflop, esp from UTG... it sends flags out like mad
    Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
    Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.

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