weird hand

NL100, Villain has $175, I cover. I'm playing very tight. Been card-dead at this table lately. Villain has only been here a few orbits but seems kinda tightish and kinda passive. Stacked some fish a while back with a set, and that's the only time I've seen him play a hand agressively for a big pot. Stats are meaningless at this point but he seems like a somewhat typical NL100 player I suppose.

Folds to me on the CO with T4s, I make it $3.50, multi-tabling button folds, SB multi-tabler calls, BB villain calls.

~$10 pot. Flop 6h 7c 8c, none of my suit. SB checks, BB bets $6, I raise to $22, SB folds, BB calls $16.

~$53 pot. Turn 9h. BB check/calls $38.

~$128 pot. River 2h. BB pushes for $112. Lukie covers his eyes and calls.

Thoughts?

owned?
he ceratianly dont have a flush

Originally Posted by Lukie

Folds to me on the CO with T4s, I make it $3.50, multi-tabling button folds, SB multi-tabler calls, BB villain calls.

Where do I send the ransom money to get Lukie back?

BTW, SB probably has a pocket pair here, TT or lower. Maybe suited broadways or AQ/AKish.

BB has a playable hand. Suited connected stuff, AJ/AQ, pocket pairs. He's around for the ride 3-way.

Originally Posted by Lukie

~$10 pot. Flop 6h 7c 8c, none of my suit. SB checks, BB bets $6, I raise to $22, SB folds, BB calls $16.

Raising here is terrible. If the BB is any good he's going to do this with stuff like a set or 2 pair. Quite ofen it's a draw though and he's not going to lay it down for $16 more, so you're just building a pot to make your life difficult later.

Consider just letting this one go, or calling his flop bet to make a play on the turn. He'll have a much harder time calling a raise with only 1 card to come on a draw.

Originally Posted by Lukie

~$53 pot. Turn 9h. BB check/calls $38.

Catching perfect is fun. Nice value bet, although I wonder about $112 behind when the pot is $128 if called. Do you really want to play for stacks here?

Originally Posted by Lukie

~$128 pot. River 2h. BB pushes for $112. Lukie covers his eyes and calls.

Thoughts?

Meh. No way you fold.

Where do I send the ransom money to get Lukie back?

hahah, I laughed. I still play very tight but I'm actively trying to make my play less readable and trying to take advantage of more edges. Anyway, one of these days me and you have to have a talk so I can see how transparent my play is to you.

Raising here is terrible.

Meh, I've only seen villain play a big pot thus far with a lock hand, and he seems passive so if he's going to continue I probably get to see both cards. If I hit the low part of my double-gutter it's obviously worthless if he has a 9, but it certainly adds to the showdown value of my hand. Plus I don't want those multitabling nits who have position on me to be playing back at me. Ok so my equity against his range sucks, but lets just ignore that for now.

Catching perfect is fun. Nice value bet, although I wonder about $112 behind when the pot is $128 if called. Do you really want to play for stacks here?

That was the plan at the time. What's your turn line here? I was actually going to bump it up more and stick the rest in on most rivers.

Meh. No way you fold.

Heh, first instinct was that I was absolutely beat, maybe going for a split. Logic dictates a call though.. I agree with that.

Jd Td.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Raising here is terrible.

Meh, I've only seen villain play a big pot thus far with a lock hand, and he seems passive so if he's going to continue I probably get to see both cards. If I hit the low part of my double-gutter it's obviously worthless if he has a 9, but it certainly adds to the showdown value of my hand. Plus I don't want those multitabling nits who have position on me to be playing back at me. Ok so my equity against his range sucks, but lets just ignore that for now.

It's a draw heavy board that didn't look like it hit you. You have so little fold equity on this flop. I'm all for playing air, but you got to know when it's going to cost a lot of money to follow through. This isn't limit where you can just toss bets out on every street and fold him out cheap on the river when he doesn't get there. I think a key to taking a pot from a missed draw is keeping it small and then putting in that last bet.

It's perfectly ok to blind steal on a couple tighish looking players, then wimp out when everything goes wrong and the pot is still pretty small. Trying to win every pot you enter with a raise costs too much money and is exploitable.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Catching perfect is fun. Nice value bet, although I wonder about $112 behind when the pot is $128 if called. Do you really want to play for stacks here?

That was the plan at the time. What's your turn line here? I was actually going to bump it up more and stick the rest in on most rivers.

Not sure. Just an observation on pot size. Pot manipulation is still a growth area for me.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Jd Td.

I had a bad feeling the way this went down and was more pessimistic on your chances, re-read my post and edited it. I was thinking split and JT without 2 clubs just didn't fit the action well enough.