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  1. #1

    Default What do you do next

    Very early in a $30 two table tounament. No reads
    I am Johnny V

    ***** Hand History for Game 930602815 *****
    15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 5749277) - Thu Sep 09 18:38:58 EDT 2004
    Table 2 - Table(72405) Table 2 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 1: marvelatme (2025)
    Seat 2: dessani (1000)
    Seat 3: RipUinDaEye (1000)
    Seat 4: decko1 (1000)
    Seat 5: Nerner (1000)
    Seat 7: JohnyV (1051)
    Seat 8: Warrng20 (985)
    Seat 9: tkmags (61)
    Seat 10: slayer7979 (1000)
    Warrng20 posts small blind (10)
    tkmags posts big blind (15)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to JohnyV [ Kd, Kc ]
    slayer7979 folds.
    marvelatme folds.
    dessani calls (15)
    RipUinDaEye calls (15)
    decko1 folds.
    Nerner calls (15)
    JohnyV raises (100) to 100
    Warrng20 folds.
    tkmags calls (46)
    tkmags is all-In.
    dessani calls (85)
    RipUinDaEye calls (85)
    Nerner calls (85)
    Creating Main Pot with $315 with tkmags
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4h, 6h, Qs ]
    dessani checks.
    RipUinDaEye checks.
    Nerner checks.
    JohnyV bets (350)
    dessani calls (350)
    RipUinDaEye folds.
    Nerner folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
    dessani bets (550)
    dessani is all-In.

    What now!
    Will post what I did and result shortly as hindsight makes the right call too easy to spot!!
  2. #2
    I'd fold it, its still early in the tournament and the blinds are small.

    You've got 2 outs to make a boat against the flush/possible trip queens.
  3. #3
    Fold. With his check and then calling the big bet on the flop, I'm guessing Q w/ possibility of having two pair. And with the Q of hearts on the turn, it makes it even easier to lay down with the flush out there. Tough to get away from Kings, though.
  4. #4
    Opponent goes from check/calling on the flop to lead betting on the turn. He's almost certain to have made a flush/trips. If he had the Q though I'm suprised he wouldn't lead bet it on the flop with that board. He should be betting just about any made hand on the flop rather than give somebody else's flush draw a free card. He may just be betting the scare card as a bluff on the turn, but I'd say this is a fold for you here.
  5. #5
    Looks like a bluff to me but with a flush draw out and QQ on the board it's a tough one to call. I fold here and then feel like I've been bluffed
    Poker is all about the long long long long long long long term . . .
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  6. #6
    Yes I agree/ agreed one can realistically only put him on top pair or flush draw given the call on the flop. Either way I now look beat on the turn . So ……………..

    JohnyV folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qc ]
    Creating Side Pot 1 with $1406 with dessani
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: 315 | Side Pot 1: 1406
    Board: [ 4h 6h Qs Qh Qc ]
    marvelatme balance 2025, didn't bet (folded)
    dessani balance 1406, bet 1000, collected 1406, net +406 [ 2s 5s ] [ three of a kind, queens -- Qs,Qh,Qc,6h,5s ]
    RipUinDaEye balance 900, lost 100 (folded)
    decko1 balance 1000, didn't bet (folded)
    Nerner balance 900, lost 100 (folded)
    JohnyV balance 601, lost 450 (folded)
    Warrng20 balance 975, lost 10 (folded)
    tkmags balance 315, bet 61, collected 315, net +254 [ 5c 7s ] [ three of a kind, queens with seven kicker -- Qs,Qh,Qc,7s,6h ]
    slayer7979 balance 1000, didn't bet (folded)



    Was this guy really fishing for a three and still clever enough to spot his only chance of bluffing when the Qh showed.
    I don’t know but it seems the only way to get people to respect your Bets/raises(preflop or post flop) recently and to fold is to go all in which often results in less winnings and is something I try to avoid.

    Just to add insult to injury the same guy took me out some time later with 47s and I must say I think the above did affect my play and yes in Hindsight I should have raised preflop or folded!

    ***** Hand History for Game 930721784 *****
    50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 5749277) - Thu Sep 09 19:15:29 EDT 2004
    Table 2 - Table(72405) Table 2 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: marvelatme (1103)
    Seat 2: dessani (2861)
    Seat 3: RipUinDaEye (2231)
    Seat 4: camdenyard (2760)
    Seat 5: Nerner (1190)
    Seat 7: JohnyV (647)
    marvelatme posts small blind (25)
    dessani posts big blind (50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to JohnyV [ Ts, Jc ]
    RipUinDaEye calls (50)
    camdenyard folds.
    Nerner folds.
    JohnyV calls (50)
    marvelatme calls (25)
    dessani checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4c, Tc, 7h ]
    marvelatme checks.
    dessani bets (100)
    RipUinDaEye folds.
    JohnyV raises (597) to 597
    JohnyV is all-In.
    marvelatme folds.
    dessani calls (497)
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
    Creating Main Pot with $1394 with JohnyV
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: 1394 |
    Board: [ 4c Tc 7h 6h Qs ]
    marvelatme balance 1053, lost 50 (folded)
    dessani balance 3608, bet 647, collected 1394, net +747 [ 4d 7d ] [ two pairs, sevens and fours -- Qs,7d,7h,4d,4c ]
    RipUinDaEye balance 2181, lost 50 (folded)
    camdenyard balance 2760, didn't bet (folded)
    Nerner balance 1190, didn't bet (folded)
    JohnyV balance 0, lost 647 [ Ts Jc ] [ a pair of tens -- Qs,Jc,Ts,Tc,7h ]
  7. #7
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    That's a tough one, man. I can't believe the guy didn't even have a heart. Put it in your notes for him and move on.

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