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  1. #1

    Default what does opp have?

    PokerStars Game #2631614192: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:13:59 (ET)
    Table 'Pales' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: edudlive ($30.40 in chips)
    Seat 2: bozo420 ($5.45 in chips)
    Seat 4: waxer_28 ($9.40 in chips)
    Seat 5: blainster ($5.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: tx149 ($22.65 in chips)
    blainster: posts small blind $0.10
    tx149: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to edudlive [Qd Ac]
    edudlive: raises $0.75 to $1
    bozo420: folds
    waxer_28: folds
    blainster: folds
    tx149: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [Ts Qc 7c]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: bets $1
    tx149: calls $1
    *** TURN *** [Ts Qc 7c] [As]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: bets $1.75
    tx149: calls $1.75
    *** RIVER *** [Ts Qc 7c As] [6c]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: bets $1.50
    tx149: raises $3.50 to $5
    edudlive: folds
    tx149 collected $10.10 from pot
    tx149: doesn't show hand
    diamondace has returned
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $10.60 | Rake $0.50
    Board [Ts Qc 7c As 6c]
    Seat 1: edudlive folded on the River
    Seat 2: bozo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: waxer_28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: blainster (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: tx149 (big blind) collected ($10.10)


    I'm pretty sure it was a set, possibly flush but I doubt it. He thought for a LONG time before calling each bet.
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  2. #2
    A later hand from OPP:

    PokerStars Game #2631707193: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:24:13 (ET)
    Table 'Pales' Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: edudlive ($24.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: bozo420 ($5 in chips)
    Seat 5: blainster ($3.65 in chips)
    Seat 6: tx149 ($45.75 in chips)
    waxer_28 leaves the table
    tx149: posts small blind $0.10
    edudlive: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to edudlive [3d Ts]
    bozo420: folds
    blainster: folds
    tx149: raises $0.25 to $0.50
    edudlive: calls $0.25
    *** FLOP *** [2c 6c Th]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: bets $0.75
    tx149: calls $0.75
    *** TURN *** [2c 6c Th] [7d]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: checks
    *** RIVER *** [2c 6c Th 7d] [3h]
    tx149: bets $0.75
    edudlive: raises $0.75 to $1.50
    tx149: calls $0.75
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    edudlive: shows [3d Ts] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
    tx149: mucks hand
    edudlive collected $5.25 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.50 | Rake $0.25
    Board [2c 6c Th 7d 3h]
    Seat 1: edudlive (big blind) showed [3d Ts] and won ($5.25) with two pair, Tens and Threes
    Seat 2: bozo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: blainster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: tx149 (small blind) mucked [Ks Qs]

    and another:

    PokerStars Game #2631734818: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:27:16 (ET)
    Table 'Pales' Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: edudlive ($27.10 in chips)
    Seat 2: bozo420 ($4 in chips)
    Seat 5: blainster ($7.65 in chips)
    Seat 6: tx149 ($39.85 in chips)
    Slutty Pot will be allowed to play after the button
    blainster: posts small blind $0.10
    tx149: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to edudlive [Th Js]
    edudlive: calls $0.25
    bozo420: folds
    blainster: calls $0.15
    tx149: checks
    *** FLOP *** [6d Kc 2d]
    blainster: checks
    Slutty Pot joins the table at seat #4
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: bets $0.75
    blainster: folds
    tx149: calls $0.75
    *** TURN *** [6d Kc 2d] [Jc]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: checks
    *** RIVER *** [6d Kc 2d Jc] [5d]
    tx149: checks
    edudlive: checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    tx149: shows [2h 3c] (a pair of Deuces)
    edudlive: shows [Th Js] (a pair of Jacks)
    edudlive collected $2.15 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $2.25 | Rake $0.10
    Board [6d Kc 2d Jc 5d]
    Seat 1: edudlive showed [Th Js] and won ($2.15) with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 2: bozo420 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: blainster (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: tx149 (big blind) showed [2h 3c] and lost with a pair of Deuces
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    Absolutely no way this is a set. No set plays like this on a draw heavy board - unless you think its a set of 6's which would make him probably one of the worst players around.

    No way you fold this. Not in NL. He's check/calling, check/calling and then check-raise. If you really thought he hit the flush/had a set, then CHECK THE RIVER.

    And if he does have the flush. You pay him off. You tell him "NH" and realize he's going to chase. In 25 NL Chasing = $$$$ (for the person betting, not the chaser). Let him win that and take the rest. I'm almost positive you have this one won. I like the value bet, but with the scare river card and you being the aggressive one in betting, check if you want. BUT DO NOT FOLD! DO NOT FOLD!!!!!!!!!!

    sorry. I really don't think you lost this hand at all... unless he has a flush and you just buddy list him and destack him.
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  4. #4
    Call

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  5. #5
    I agree with everyone else. You gotta pay this off. Given the information about your opponent thinking a lot before each act, you have to pay it off.

    If he does have the flush then understand his deceptive behavior (waiting to bet or call)

    Feels like he hit a lower two pair on the river and wasn't putting you on a flush so he raised.
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  6. #6
    So what is it about this that should make me call? I don't quite understand

    After thinking about it today it does seem more likely that he hit a smaller two pair but what should make me think that?
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