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what's 2nd pair, nut flush draw worth?

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    Default what's 2nd pair, nut flush draw worth?

    I'm guessing that this is bad. But how bad?
    Villain's range? Something like 17-6-7 if that helps

    I figure QJspades/22/Ax/A2s/pp88-JJ in that order. And most likely one of the first three

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($64.45)
    UTG+1 ($10.95)
    MP1 ($49)
    Hero ($46.10)
    MP3 ($54.20)
    CO ($44.05)
    Button ($54.95)
    SB ($68.80)
    BB ($10.30)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, T.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($3) 2, A, K (6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $24, Hero raises to $51.6 (All-In)
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    You aren't far behind any made hand here except A 2 or 22. I can't see mp1 ever folding here though. I would figure at least 11 outs here though, maybe 14 if you count tens. Do we count Tens here is my question. It completes a straight, but if they have a straight draw it doesn't really matter how many outs we have because we are ahead to begin with. Can we put A 10 in mp1s limping range?

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