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  1. #1

    Default Whats the play on the turn?

    Villain is unknown only have 14 hands on him. If he has a K then I want to bet but if he called with a flush draw then hmmm. I guess KJ is also possible. How to play the turn should I bet or check?

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    9 players
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $5.50
    UTG+1: $5.15
    MP1: $5.55
    MP2: $24.65
    MP3: $23
    CO: $16.45
    Button: $40.16
    Hero: $26.47
    BB: $3.75

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with A K
    5 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

    Flop: K 3 7 ($1.75, 2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, CO calls.

    Turn: J ($9.75, 2 players)
    Hero???
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  2. #2
    well. he's got $11-12 left, the pot is almost $10, you have TPTK + the NFD, I would bet about $7 and call a push.
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  3. #3
    3bet PF
    c/r bigger on the flop if you don't 3bet. Here's a question for you, calculate the odds you're offering him on a flop call with your c/r.

    I'm not sold that betting the turn in the best play, I'm trying to figure out how we get money out of a worser hand here. Don't get me wrong, I'm never folding but I dunno.
  4. #4
    I offered him 3-1 with the flop c/r
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pants_101
    I offered him 3-1 with the flop c/r
    Yes you did, now did you actually think about that when you raised?
    Two more questions:
    1. Is that raise big enough
    2. Does that size of the raise allow the money to get in easier on the later streets
    Bonus question:
    1. What was your planned bet size for the turn/river?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by Pants_101
    I offered him 3-1 with the flop c/r
    Yes you did, now did you actually think about that when you raised?
    Two more questions:
    1. Is that raise big enough
    2. Does that size of the raise allow the money to get in easier on the later streets
    Bonus question:
    1. What was your planned bet size for the turn/river?
    I did think about the odds I was offering although with the limited time I got it a bit wrong, I wanted to offer more like 2.5-1.

    1) If he calls with a flush draw his BEP is 25% and he's about 18% to come in on the turn. If he has a worse K it's irrelevent really. If he has a pair and a flush draw then he's about 24% on the turn I think... so I think it's big enough BUT if I could get him to call a bigger raise that would be better.
    2) I don't know, pot is $9.75 and he has about $11.50 left. If I'd bet another dollar he would have less than the pot behind on the turn which would be better I suppose for getting it all in.

    B1) I was planning a half to 3/4 pot bet on the turn. I thought a K would come along and if he wanted to chase the draw that's up to him.

    I've thought about this some more now and I think I should check the turn. If he has hit the flush he may slowplay allowing me a shot at the nuts. Or he may bet small enough to give me odds to draw. If he has a K my check may make him think I'm weaker than I am and I might win a big bet on the river I wouldn't otherwise have got called. If I check and he makes a big turn bet I probably put him on the flush and fold. If he's good enough to bluff me here or dumb enough to think a weak K is good here then he wins. Thoughts?
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  7. #7
    did anyone mention how poor not c/b'ing the flop was? Gotta c/b that baby
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  8. #8
    you cant cbet if you didnt raise...

    Must get more aggressive <--- your quote
    3bet this pf and play it for stacks
  9. #9
    sry i assumed you 3 bet PF and where in control.

    EDIT: 3 bet AKo
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    Sorry to hijack the post:
    Guys, do you always 3 bet with AK in BB? or sometimes call/3bet depending on opp?
  11. #11
    Pre-flop: Mix it up.
    On the turn do anything that doesn't involve your fold button. Bet into calling types, check to betting types.
  12. #12
    play AK more aggro pf. cr a bit more on the flop.

    try and get your stacks in the pot on the turn. you have the nut flush draw.
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    Stacks on the turn are small enough to be playing for them. This is a great card for you because if you were ahead before, you're probably ahead now. And if you were behind before, you are catching up the only way possible.

    The reason I mention you are probably ahead now if you were ahead on the flop is because you have only been surpassed by either a flush or a weird JJ that didn't believe your flop c/r. A flush by villain is very unlikely because he raised preflop and we have the Ace.

    I like another check raise here. Either he's way ahead or he's way behind, but since I don't see yourself getting away from this hand, let's try to get villain to take another stab at it.

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