[quote=piratepeaty]
Quote Originally Posted by "Miffed22001
Can we buy these pots with this line often enough to make it worth the effort against the standard player is i think what im trying to say.
becuase salsa's opinion of calling this a lot and folding it a little scares me

Most of the time I say, no. Based on my analysis earlier in the thread he needs to fold over half the time to break even. I don't think the 'standard' player does this. I've seen flushes pay off boats far to often on these kinds of boards. Hell... I've paid off a pair of sevens with a bluff, on a board like this. That is why I stopped making plays like this one on the river. I only make it against a player that knows where the fold button is.

If you bet it, they will call.
if youre telling me that piratepeaty (and i have no idea who you are other than you come with a good reputation) then im happy with that and this line aint good.
I was under the assumption anyway that their are too many players who like flushes too much anyway, thats not a criticism btw salsa! i just wondered if anyone shared the same thoughts and hence bluffing them out once in a while was really worth the effort.