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  1. #1

    Default Would you call this on a draw?

    0.25/0.5$ NL 10 players

    Dealt to Borax in EP (JJ)
    X raise 2$
    Borax call 2$
    Y reraise to 6$
    X call 4$
    Borax call 4$
    FLOP (AKQ)
    X check
    Borax bet 6$
    Y raise to 40$ all in
    X fold
    Borax call 34$ all in
    TURN (8)
    RIVER (2)
    Borax shows (JJ) a pair of J's
    Y show (KK) three K's
    Y wins pot


    My thoughts: From my read I knew he had KK, AA, QQ or maybe AKs
    I figured I had:
    1 out for royal straight flush (10)
    3 outs for a straight (3 other tens)
    8 outs for nut flush (remaining s)
    + some very small chance of hitting 2 more J's
    = about 4x12= 48% chance to win
    if he had AK I get 2 more outs for two remaining J's = 4x14=52%
    So I'm close to a coin flip here I would say.
    Would you have called this
  2. #2
    The pot odds are 64:34, or 1.88:1 so since you are about 1:1 to call this I would. It has +EV in the long run, even though you lost this time.
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    It's also worth noting that your opponent almost certainly has a set here and can pair the board to have you drawing dead to a royal flush, so not only do you have to hit one of your draws, you will usually have to avoid a whole collection of cards on the turn and river. I don't really think it's worth it.
  5. #5

    Default Re: Would you call this on a draw?

    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
    0.25/0.5$ NL 10 players

    Dealt to Borax in EP (JJ)
    X raise 2$
    Borax call 2$
    Y reraise to 6$
    X call 4$
    Borax call 4$
    FLOP (AKQ)
    X check
    Borax bet 6$
    Y raise to 40$ all in
    X fold
    Borax call 34$ all in
    TURN (8)
    RIVER (2)
    Borax shows (JJ) a pair of J's
    Y show (KK) three K's
    Y wins pot
    PokerStove says:

    1.78 : 1 odds and your pot odds are 1.88 : 1. It is a slightly EV+ call. So . . . even if he flopped his cards up and you knew what he had, it is a good call. Not by much, but still a good call.
    Pyroxene
  6. #6
    dsaxton wrote: ....you will usually have to avoid a whole collection of cards on the turn and river. I don't really think it's worth it.
    3x A's , 3x Q's and 1x K = 7 cards to make me need the royal straight flush after the turn. Not too bad I think, but a good point still.
  7. #7
    Can't argue with PokerStove. Call that bitch!

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