gutshot - That's interesting that you are finding the players weak over at Paradise Poker. I started out there and I played both the .50/1.00 limit and $50 NL tables. I found the play to be MUCH better there than any of the other sites that I have since played (UB, Party/Empire). It could be that the fish are out at the $10 NL tables because that might be where the people just learning feel most comfortable playing. In any event, interesting info.