Re-raise flop or play as is?

***** Hand History for Game 2312153121 *****
NL Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:13663920 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, July 05, 02:14:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 10897 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 9: Extratopping ( $975 )
Seat 10: Bloodthurst ( $975 )
Seat 3: WellPlayed8 ( $985 )
Seat 4: alaq24 ( $1000 )
Seat 2: blnd_squirrl ( $1115 )
Seat 1: Ch1pM0nK ( $2060 )
Seat 6: Chocobops ( $1030 )
Seat 8: AtticanFinch ( $270 )
Seat 5: yaccovmoshe ( $985 )
Seat 7: BigRiverman ( $605 )
Trny:13663920 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Extratopping [ 4s 4c ]
alaq24 calls [15].
yaccovmoshe folds.
Chocobops folds.
BigRiverman: u go ahead and believe that
>You have options at Table 11784 Table!.
BigRiverman folds.
AtticanFinch folds.
Extratopping calls [15].
Bloodthurst folds.
Ch1pM0nK folds.
blnd_squirrl calls [5].
WellPlayed8 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 4d, 7h ]
Ch1pM0nK: lol you had K3
blnd_squirrl checks.
>You have options at Table 10874 Table!.
WellPlayed8 bets [60].
BigRiverman: flopped A A 3 3
alaq24 calls [60].
Ch1pM0nK: shoulda folded that for fifteen
BigRiverman: U FLOPPED NOTHING
Extratopping calls [60].
>You have options at Table 14454 Table!.
blnd_squirrl folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
WellPlayed8 bets [250].
Ch1pM0nK: garbage
alaq24 calls [250].
Extratopping is all-In [900]
WellPlayed8 is all-In [660]
alaq24 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
>You have options at Table 10874 Table!.
WellPlayed8 shows [ 4h, Ks ] two pairs, kings and fours.
Extratopping shows [ 4s, 4c ] three of a kind, fours.
WellPlayed8 wins 10 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and fours.
Extratopping wins 2290 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, fours.

My smooth calling the flop and pushing any turn that is a non diamond I think I disguise my hand and get calls from hands I have beat. Opinions?

Intersting play, although a beat dangerous on a board with flsuh and str8 draws.

What would you do on the turn if a diamond did hit and he would bet the same amount (250) ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TLR

Intersting play, although a beat dangerous on a board with flsuh and str8 draws.

What would you do on the turn if a diamond did hit and he would bet the same amount (250) ?

---

Fold unless I was getting odds to draw to boat.

You gave him 2.1 : 1 odds to draw, if he in his mind needed to draw to win.

You disguised it well.

I think that raising the flop is safer with less return
Waiting to make the move on the turn is rsikier but with more return.

Thats all I can see.

Aces do you have any comments on your stop and go ahnd?

I'd make it 180 to go, KQ or KJ probably coming with you and maybe gets tied to the hand, and makes the draws pay or get out. Plus the K may smell draws (especially if he was the first bet) and decide to charge more and you can get it in right here. If they both fold to 180 I can't believe you were making any money on the hand anyway.

This hand is like playing a draw backwards. You are the one with the made hand, they may be going for the draw and they may have an inferior made hand. About 20% of the time a diamond will come and you lose your 60 call. The other 80% of the time you win at least the current pot and with your position you will almost certainly get some extra bets. If the other person has a solid hand like he did (two pair) or even TPTK he will lose some extra money. I like the play.