Your play?

Whats your play here and why, no reads on villain just sat down to table

***** Hand History for Game 2382198496 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, July 18, 00:07:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 48825 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: moon_li ( $166 )
Seat 4: Itz2Easy ( $436 )
Seat 5: coin_flipper ( $413.60 )
Seat 6: penny2card ( $223 )
Seat 7: jjjTjjj ( $490 )
Seat 8: NwHowULikeIt ( $479.90 )
Seat 9: Cheater66636 ( $439 )
Seat 10: EvilEcstasy_ ( $425.10 )
Seat 2: Luv22 ( $402 )
Seat 3: markevil ( $250 )
moon_li posts small blind [$2].
Luv22 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Tc Ts ]
Itz2Easy folds.
coin_flipper folds.
penny2card folds.
jjjTjjj folds.
Cheater66636 raises [$20].
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$20].
moon_li folds.
Luv22 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7c, 7s ]
Cheater66636 bets [$45].
EvilEcstasy_ ???

First off, I think I would have re-raised him pre-flop, to try and get an idea if your tens are already smoked before you even see another card. He was one off the button after the table folded to him...he could have anything.

But regardless, after just calling his raise pre-flop, i would have raised his flop bet, maybe to $90 or $100. If he called or raised I would probably put him on either JJ or higher, or a flopped boat with 66.

Personally, I think a raise is your only move here...only way to get info on his holdings.

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Originally Posted by Deadmoney

First off, I think I would have re-raised him pre-flop, to try and get an idea if your tens are already smoked before you even see another card. He was one off the button after the table folded to him...he could have anything.

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If I reraise pre-flop he will likely call withg holdings like AK JJ or QQ (likely here with a 5x BB PFR), and will reraise with AA and KK.. this doesnt really help me.

True...but I still say raise the flop bet.

I'd fire back a re-raise. If he pushes, I'd put him on QQ-AA and fold. If he calls, I'd put him on a loose (and somewhat stupid) AK or a QQ-AA trying to maximise profit on a raggy board.

Actually, I think I'd just fold to that bet. It smells too much like a high PP.

Is a 5x bet a reasonable PFR? No experience at these limits. In general a big raise like that on the flop means 99, TT, JJ or QQ. Without a read I probably fold that PF and certainly on the flop.

Either re-raise pre flop to see where you stand or fold preflop. Without a read on this guy I would fold it and move on to the next hand. But he might just be using position and the fact that everyone folded before him to take the 6 bucks.

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Originally Posted by Tenny

Either re-raise pre flop to see where you stand or fold preflop.

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That's just horrible. He's not going to win the pot preflop and he's only going to commit more chips with what is likely the second best hand. Call to set, fold the flop.

-'rilla

Call 20.00 into a 26.00 pot on the 1 in 8 chance he will hit a set ? Throw the hand away if your not going to bet the flop with no overs.

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Originally Posted by Tenny

Call 20.00 into a 26.00 pot on the 1 in 8 chance he will hit a set ? Throw the hand away if your not going to bet the flop with no overs.

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You don't understand anything about implied odds, do you?

After 40k I have 1 unprofitable pair. 66 becuase it refuses to set and win. All other pairs make about 1.25-2.15 bb/hand. And a common strategy of mine is to call 20.00 into a 26.00 pot on the 1 in 8 chance I will spike a set.

-'rilla

easy fold.

easy call to try and set.

when someone raises hard like that into me preflop when i have QQ to 22 .. i call to catch a set and take homeboys entire stack.

divide the bet by their chip stacks. 20$ / 420$ +

your getting more then 20 to 1 on a 11.5 to 1 to set on the flop.

not calling is weak.

easy fold POSTflop.