lay this down and why?

No read on villain

***** Hand History for Game 2445020406 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, July 29, 19:42:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 49763 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: UTHUGHES ( $432.20 )
Seat 3: EvilEcstasy_ ( $374 )
Seat 6: DLeak014 ( $177.40 )
Seat 5: Rcxslam ( $100.95 )
Seat 4: eezspearfish ( $379.80 )
Seat 1: khasper ( $396 )
DLeak014 posts small blind [$2].
khasper posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Ad Kh ]
UTHUGHES folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$12].
>You have options at Table 55208 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
eezspearfish calls [$12].
Rcxslam folds.
DLeak014 calls [$10].
khasper folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Kc, 2h ]
DLeak014 checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$25].
eezspearfish raises [$50].
DLeak014 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$25].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
eezspearfish bets [$125].
EvilEcstasy_ folds.
eezspearfish does not show cards.

im pushing the turn, i dont think he has the set

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Originally Posted by bair

im pushing the turn, i dont think he has the set

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and why dont you think so?

that seems like a very protective "i dont want you to call" bet into a check on the turn. i think he has KQ.

Hmm...with no read its a tough one.
Really depends how much you feel like a punt.
i dont think you can know with any certainty, perhaps another reraise on the flop would have made things a bit clearer
I'd be happy with all three options, but probably wait for a better spot to possibly drop my stack

I dont think he has a set because of the re-raise on the flop... unless he feared the flush draw.... but your bet on the flop doesn't scream of a flush draw.

If you were on a flush draw and betting like that, he's going to want to make a "call me" bet to sucker you in to the river... unless he hit two pair, but who is calling K4 on a 12 dollar raise (I dont play your level, so I may be wrong)

I think I would have re-raised that flop to about $100, if he just called I'd put him on KQ and lead out with a bet on the turn. If he pushes, I'd probably fold. Then again I am stupidly aggressive and only play 100NL 6max. I think your play is a little weak tight folding your tptk to the minraise.

edit:Then again, I don't blame you, both your stacks are deep and he's obviously willing to go AI on this one from the looks of it.