Set AI with TPTK at turn, you move?

- krissyd sitting in seat 1 with $26.79
- stilgar1000 sitting in seat 2 with $15.90
- jannejanne sitting in seat 3 with $0.00 [Sitting out]
- SinkRox sitting in seat 4 with $19.30 [Dealer]
- Hansastaden sitting in seat 5 with $15.05
- spraydump sitting in seat 6 with $54.15
- Paella sitting in seat 7 with $24.20
- nmf21 sitting in seat 8 with $14.30
- rallken sitting in seat 9 with $9.30
- chip__club sitting in seat 10 with $9.80

Hansastaden posted the small blind - $0.10
spraydump posted the big blind - $0.20

** Dealing card to SinkRox: Queen of Clubs, Ace of Hearts
Paella folded
nmf21 folded
rallken folded
chip__club called - $0.20
krissyd called - $0.20
stilgar1000 called - $0.20
SinkRox raised - $1.20
Hansastaden folded
spraydump folded
chip__club folded
krissyd called - $1.20
stilgar1000 folded

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Clubs, 4 of Clubs, Queen of Spades
krissyd checked
SinkRox bet - $1.80
krissyd called - $1.80

** Dealing the turn: 8 of Hearts
krissyd checked
SinkRox bet - $4.00
krissyd went all-in - $23.79
SinkRox... (i have $12 left)

pot is ~$33

ps no reads! :(

half of everyone doing this will be a push-monster and have you beat, half will be on some type of bizarre bluff or draw. without a read i fold.

id fold, your hand isnt that strong and you probably have no redraws.

At this point you have 60% of your money in the pot, only 12 more for a pot of 33. That's about 36% pot odds. TPTK probably is not a calling hand here. The $4 bet on the turn is a little to much to risk just to get information (20xBB, I think 5 - 10xBB would have been enough). And with no reads you can judge whether this guys a maniac or not. I would put him on an overpair looking to get paid.

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SinkRox... (i have $12 left)

pot is ~$33

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IMO, Thats a fold.

Calling because the bet is so "little" compaired to the pot is a leak in my game...

calling a reraise is one of the biggest leaks in my game..

hmm he just reraised my $10 bet another $20... that makes the current pot $50, and i'm just calling $20 with my TPTK!! ... call!!

For some reason when I call this I keep hitting sets. *wonders why*

think ur pot odds are right but i only had $7-8 invested out of 20$ stack so about 40% of my money in the pot.

I folded and he said 'bah wish i got more off you'

i put him on a set... he said qq!?

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i only had $7-8 invested out of 20$ stack

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Looking at it like that is what is helping me stop.

I think I have the problem licked though.

At least I hope so

if it is indeed the case that half the time it's a bluff, then it's a definite call
but I guess it's going to be a set more than half the time and you're going to be drawing dead
Or will it? Or is it an all-in semi-bluff with a flush draw :)

He has two pr or a set. I fold.

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Originally Posted by iopq

if it is indeed the case that half the time it's a bluff, then it's a definite call
but I guess it's going to be a set more than half the time and you're going to be drawing dead
Or will it? Or is it an all-in semi-bluff with a flush draw :)

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i wasn't going for accuracy, i was just saying, sometimes you're beat bad here sometimes you're ahead, but if you have no reason to think they're bluffing then assume they're not.

Definitely fold there; you're beat. No doubt.

Preflop looks like they were trying to limp in with a smallish pocket pair. Your 6xbb raise says, "I have a high pocket pair" (even though you don't). They decide to call thinking they can stack you if they hit a set.

Hit their set on the flop (not queens that's a lie).

Checked to you thinking you'd bet your KK or AA. You bet, they smooth called.

Same plan on the turn. Check to you, let you bet, then move you AI since you don't have all that much left and KK or AA would call.

A maniac might play a draw that way, but without a read sometimes their name and/or avatar (if that's on whatever site you played this hand) will give you a clue to their play style. Krissyd sounds like a female, combined with the blind level I would rule out a semi bluff.

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