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11-06-2005, 10:27 AM
BIGandRICH

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POKERSTARS GAME #2986635512: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/11/06 - 07:22:42 (ET)
Table 'Turais' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: park69 ($5.95 in chips)
Seat 2: trompo ($16.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Scott Owen ($23.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Cohen 1er ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 5: JohnnyTint ($5.70 in chips)
trompo: posts small blind $0.05
Scott Owen: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Qh: :Qs:]
Cohen 1er: calls $0.10
JohnnyTint: folds
park69: calls $0.10
trompo: calls $0.05
Scott Owen: raises $0.40 to $0.50
Cohen 1er: calls $0.40
park69: calls $0.40
trompo: folds
*** FLOP *** [:8h: :Qc: :4s:]
Scott Owen: bets $1.10
Cohen 1er: calls $1.10
park69: folds
*** TURN *** [8h Qc 4s] [:5s:]
Scott Owen: bets $2.40
JohnnyTint leaves the table
Cohen 1er: calls $2.40
*** RIVER *** [8h Qc 4s 5s] [:Jh:]
tsola joins the table at seat #6
Scott Owen: bets $3
Cohen 1er: raises $9.85 to $12.85 and is all-in

I dont really think theres ever gonna be room to fold here, he'd have to have chased a gutshot.. though this guy was capable of that..

I'm never folding here, but i may be wrong, anyone ever fold it?
11-06-2005, 10:40 AM
mxiu

9T? I'm never folding this. They have very little reason to call any of those bets if they held 9T. If they actually chased it, then pay them off and buddy list them.
11-06-2005, 10:47 AM
Doublethe7

I'd never fold here. There are only two hands, that can beat you and I dont think he's on 67 or 9T cause of the preflop call. If he's on that, be happy he made very poor calls after flop and on the turn.

I'll put him on KK.
11-06-2005, 10:49 AM
BIGandRICH

67 has made a straight on the turn, and 9T is also beating me..
i put him on QJ myself
11-07-2005, 08:37 AM
ChrisBCritter

Impossible not to call. I wouldn't even consider a straight there except to the worst of fishies...
11-07-2005, 08:41 AM
BIGandRICH

Yes i am in full agreement with this.. calling all day, even though i thought this guy might be capable of going after a gutshot... and i was right but this was a desperation AI not an I've hit.. J9
11-07-2005, 08:43 AM
sejje

I put him on some kind of 2 pair, most likely QJ.

No folding here.
11-07-2005, 11:48 AM
Rondavu

I love when high pockets wait till the river to raise like this. By that time I have 5 kings, 2 straights, a nut flush, and a wrap around yahtzee.
11-07-2005, 12:01 PM
edudlive

I'd put him on Kings (10NL guys will rarely reraise you preflop), JQ, a smaller set, weird two pair, but probably not a straight. Just remember, they are that donkish to do it.
11-08-2005, 05:22 AM
BIGandRICH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I love when high pockets wait till the river to raise like this. By that time I have 5 kings, 2 straights, a nut flush, and a wrap around yahtzee.

you have such a magical way of turning a fishes mistake into a comedic extravaganza.

nh sir
11-08-2005, 10:19 AM
TalentedTom

Your river bet is weak, considering he has shown a willingless to call continue with the 2/3 pot sized bet.
11-08-2005, 12:16 PM
Greedo017

i'm never ever folding that.
11-08-2005, 12:59 PM
Surf_Thug

Neva eva eva? Neva eva eva eva..

He's got QJ, Call it.
11-08-2005, 01:31 PM
journey075

why even bother to figure out what he has? im never folding top set unless the board is 4-straight or 4-flush.
11-08-2005, 04:29 PM
Rondavu

Would you fold KK on a 568 rainbow flop if your preflop raise was 20xBB? I had to last night. I'm just saying that sometimes you KNOW.
11-09-2005, 07:59 AM
renegaderob1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surf_Thug

Neva eva eva? Neva eva eva eva..

He's got QJ, Call it.

Neva eva eva eva...

although I did run into a runner runner straight a few days ago in nearly the exact situation... friggen fish... buddy list!
11-09-2005, 09:48 AM
johnny_fish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

Would you fold KK on a 568 rainbow flop if your preflop raise was 20xBB? I had to last night. I'm just saying that sometimes you KNOW.

HH? :)
11-09-2005, 10:23 AM
Aces

What about this situation?(pardon lack of HH):
Full table .5/1 NL

EP calls $1
MP raises to $4
MP2 calls $4
SB(me) calls $4 {8h8s}
EP calls $3

Flop {8d7d6d}
SB bets $4
EP raises to $20
MP folds
MP2 folds
SB calls $16

Turn{4s}
SB checks
EP bets $75 and is all-in
SB ?????????

Give credit for a flopped st8 or flush and fold, or call? I figured I had to call after calling the flop reraise and a non-scary turn card. I would've bet the flop harder but my time was running out I wanted to bet at least something(this was at Bet365, a Prima skin). My read was he was on a draw.

Not much in the way of read...I had seen EP playing loose PF in the first 10 hands I was at the table.

(Sorry for the hijack, but it is related )
11-09-2005, 11:59 AM
BIGandRICH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces

What about this situation?(pardon lack of HH):
Full table .5/1 NL

EP calls $1
MP raises to $4
MP2 calls $4
SB(me) calls $4 {8h8s}
EP calls $3

Flop {8d7d6d}
SB bets $4
EP raises to $20
MP folds
MP2 folds
SB calls $16

Turn{4s}
SB checks
EP bets $75 and is all-in
SB ?????????

Give credit for a flopped st8 or flush and fold, or call? I figured I had to call after calling the flop reraise and a non-scary turn card. I would've bet the flop harder but my time was running out I wanted to bet at least something(this was at Bet365, a Prima skin). My read was he was on a draw.

Not much in the way of read...I had seen EP playing loose PF in the first 10 hands I was at the table.

(Sorry for the hijack, but it is related )

well, i'm tired and dont really want to think it through right now.. but you have 10 outs to a boat/quads.. if thats worth much to ya....

so if he's full of shit you have him owned, if you dont, you got a back up.

though its a tough decision without read.. far harder than my hand..

...no worries about hijacking the thead