I think i should have called this river...

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12-27-2005, 06:02 PM
Pelion

I think i should have called this river...

Edit: This was horrible. I was out of position with 0 reads. He sat down 8 or so hands before.

1) Should i fold the turn?
2) Should i call the river?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($1.19)
BB ($2.21)
Hero ($5.85)
MP1 ($4.95)
MP2 ($2.69)
CO ($2)
Button ($1.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart:, Q:diamond:. CO posts a blind of $0.02.
Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.12, 2 folds, SB calls $0.11, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.40) K:heart:, K:spade:, 9:club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, SB folds.

Turn: ($0.90) A:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MP2 calls $0.70.

River: ($2.30) 2:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.62 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3.92
12-27-2005, 06:04 PM
Fnord

Good time to check the flop.
Check/fold the turn.
12-27-2005, 06:23 PM
Symbolic

Why check the flop? Why not try to win a small pot there?

I do like the check / fold line on the turn though. a 9 will have a hard time betting out there.
12-27-2005, 06:26 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbolic

a 9 will have a hard time betting out there.

I expect all sorts of hands to bet after we check the turn.
12-27-2005, 06:29 PM
Symbolic

Even at microlimits?
12-27-2005, 06:30 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbolic

Even at microlimits?

I expect less balance and more information in his bet size.
12-27-2005, 06:55 PM
Miffed22001

hmmmm
im betting the flop
but checking it thereafter. I thik i'd showdown given a reasonable price or being able to block bet the river
12-27-2005, 06:59 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

im betting the flop
but checking it thereafter. I thik i'd showdown given a reasonable price

Betting the flop and checking the turn isn't a great way to showdown nor prevent difficult decisions. Getting aggro with marginal holdings that might be best, out of position on early streets often leads to marginal hands out of position on later streets with a big pot. Particually since a lot of players don't know how to bet...
12-27-2005, 07:00 PM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

im betting the flop
but checking it thereafter. I thik i'd showdown given a reasonable price

Betting the flop and checking the turn isn't a great way to showdown nor prevent difficult decisions. Getting aggro with marginal holdings that might be best, out of position on early streets often leads to marginal hands out of position on later streets with a a big pot.

KKx may not be too scary, the A on turn is?
12-27-2005, 07:03 PM
Fnord

For what it's worth, I usually check this flop and see what the button wants to do.

If everyone passes to me on the turn, I would bet repping all sorts of stuff and hope the button folds.
12-27-2005, 07:06 PM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

For what it's worth, I usually check this flop and see what the button wants to do.

If everyone passes to me on the turn, I would bet repping all sorts of stuff and hope the button folds.

and if u get a call from me on the button how do u play oop on the river?
12-27-2005, 07:10 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

For what it's worth, I usually check this flop and see what the button wants to do.

If everyone passes to me on the turn, I would bet repping all sorts of stuff and hope the button folds.

and if u get a call from me on the button how do u play oop on the river?

Check and see what he wants to do. With any luck he'll make a stupid small bet and I'll probably look him up.

In any reguards, this isn't a spot where I want to go to war nor do I really need to c-bet here. If I'm going to make a mistake it's going to be folding the best hand (with very little chance of improvement) in a medium-small pot or calling a small bet.