Should i be in this hand or not?

BB was a bit laggy,so i called.
Was this a big mistake by me or not?

$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, December 28, 13:11:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 65741 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: tsharp ( $25.69 )
Seat 3: KBill2 ( $35.70 )
Seat 4: omnilinguist ( $63.45 )
Seat 5: nikpig ( $22.29 )
Seat 6: Dislexsik ( $24.10 )
KBill2 posts small blind [$0.10].
omnilinguist posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dislexsik [ 8d 7d ]
nikpig calls [$0.25].
Dislexsik calls [$0.25].
tsharp calls [$0.25].
KBill2 folds.
omnilinguist raises [$1.25].
nikpig calls [$1.25].
Dislexsik calls [$1.25].
tsharp folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3d, 5d ]
omnilinguist checks.
nikpig checks.
Dislexsik checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
omnilinguist bets [$5].
nikpig folds.
Dislexsik folds.
omnilinguist does not show cards.
omnilinguist wins $9.65

And what about this hand?
**** Hand History for Game 3274899594 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, December 28, 13:23:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 65741 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: tsharp ( $32.42 )
Seat 3: KBill2 ( $35.90 )
Seat 4: omnilinguist ( $60.05 )
Seat 5: nikpig ( $31.91 )
Seat 6: Dislexsik ( $23.30 )
Seat 1: rusmac31 ( $23.25 )
nikpig posts small blind [$0.10].
Dislexsik posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dislexsik [ 4c 6c ]
rusmac31 calls [$0.25].
tsharp folds.
KBill2 folds.
omnilinguist folds.
nikpig raises [$0.40].
Dislexsik calls [$0.25].
rusmac31 calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 5c, Jh ]
nikpig checks.
Dislexsik checks.
rusmac31 bets [$1].
nikpig folds.
Dislexsik calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Dislexsik bets [$3].
rusmac31 calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Dislexsik bets [$4].
rusmac31 raises [$8].
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Dislexsik folds.
rusmac31 does not show cards.
rusmac31 wins $20.65

Edit2:
I dont know whats happening...
***** Hand History for Game 3274909158 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, December 28, 13:26:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 65741 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: tsharp ( $32.42 )
Seat 3: KBill2 ( $31.75 )
Seat 4: omnilinguist ( $60.05 )
Seat 5: nikpig ( $31.16 )
Seat 6: Dislexsik ( $14.70 )
Seat 1: rusmac31 ( $35.50 )
rusmac31 posts small blind [$0.10].
tsharp posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dislexsik [ 8h 7h ]
KBill2 folds.
omnilinguist folds.
nikpig raises [$0.50].
Dislexsik calls [$0.50].
rusmac31 calls [$0.40].
tsharp calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9h, 8c ]
rusmac31 checks.
tsharp checks.
nikpig bets [$1].
Dislexsik calls [$1].
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rusmac31 calls [$1].
tsharp folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
rusmac31 checks.
nikpig bets [$1].
Dislexsik raises [$3].
rusmac31 raises [$9].
nikpig folds.
rusmac31: owned
Dislexsik: u either get beast cards or ur a idiot
Dislexsik folds.
rusmac31 does not show cards.
rusmac31 wins $17.40

Edit3:
Well thanks for this i guess:

***** Hand History for Game 3274921968 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, December 28, 13:29:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 65741 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: tsharp ( $31.67 )
Seat 3: KBill2 ( $31.95 )
Seat 4: omnilinguist ( $59.80 )
Seat 5: nikpig ( $28.16 )
Seat 6: Dislexsik ( $9.95 )
Seat 1: rusmac31 ( $43.35 )
omnilinguist posts small blind [$0.10].
nikpig posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dislexsik [ 2d 2h ]
Dislexsik calls [$0.25].
rusmac31 calls [$0.25].
tsharp folds.
KBill2 folds.
omnilinguist calls [$0.15].
nikpig checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 6s, 2c ]
omnilinguist bets [$1].
nikpig calls [$1].
Dislexsik is all-In [$9.70]
rusmac31 folds.
omnilinguist is all-In [$58.55]
nikpig folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
omnilinguist shows [ 7s, 8s ] a pair of sevens.
Dislexsik shows [ 2d, 2h ] three of a kind, twos.
omnilinguist wins $49.85 from side pot #1 with a pair of sevens.
Dislexsik wins $20.35 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

1. Being in this hand is fine, regardless of the play of the big blind. You'd actually almost *prefer* for him to be a standard TAgg so if you hit something with your suited connectors, you can clean him out because he won't let go of his overpair, top pair top kicker... whatever it is. But I'd make that call against any type of raiser for the amount of money and with one other person in the pot, and you being last to act. Perfect setup for the hand.

2. Your fold on the turn is questionable. He did overbet the pot, giving you not even 2:1 odds to call, but you have a pair and a flush draw - that's probably 14 clean outs (9 for the flush, 3 for two pair, 2 for trips). That puts you close to the 2:1 area, and if you hit something and can extract another $5 or more from him, it's going to be at least a break-even play. The only real concern for you would be if he had AA, but his flop check/turn overbet line is more likely to indicate that he has nothing (KQ) or a middle pair (88-QQ) that didn't like the ace high flop.

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Originally Posted by dalecooper

1. Being in this hand is fine, regardless of the play of the big blind. You'd actually almost *prefer* for him to be a standard TAgg so if you hit something with your suited connectors, you can clean him out because he won't let go of his overpair, top pair top kicker... whatever it is. But I'd make that call against any type of raiser for the amount of money and with one other person in the pot, and you being last to act. Perfect setup for the hand.

2. Your fold on the turn is questionable. He did overbet the pot, giving you not even 2:1 odds to call, but you have a pair and a flush draw - that's probably 14 clean outs (9 for the flush, 3 for two pair, 2 for trips). That puts you close to the 2:1 area, and if you hit something and can extract another $5 or more from him, it's going to be at least a break-even play. The only real concern for you would be if he had AA, but his flop check/turn overbet line is more likely to indicate that he has nothing (KQ) or a middle pair (88-QQ) that didn't like the ace high flop.

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On 2.:I think i folded because i was scared for losing against
cause lately im suffering from a bad downsing (last weeks ppl usually have a higher flush when hands like this happen)wich infects my playstlye a bit.I know its stupid,i guess i have to work on that.

About the other hands you posted:

hand 2 - that river card sucks. I'd usually check and call a reasonable bet, fold to anything too pricy. Because there are four clubs on the board (incl. the ace) and two in your hand, it's somewhat less likely he has a club himself - but then again, why is he hanging around in the hand? You now have a six-high flush with four on the board and it's worth not much. I'm not crazy about your blocking bet because he folds if he doesn't have a club and calls or raises if he does have one that's higher than yours (most of them are). Check and hope for a cheap showdown.

hand 3 - fold the flop. You have bottom pair and an ass-end, gutshot straight draw on a very coordinated board... why are you staying in? I know it looks like you should have something more than you do, but assess it honestly: you may be in horrible shape already, and half the cards you think are outs may be dirty. Let this one go and don't give it a look back. If you actually improved enough to have the winning hand, no one's going to have anything good enough to look you up anyway, more than likely. Look at just the board through the turn:

Js, 9h, 8c, 7d
You have: 7h 8h

You raise with your bottom two after just calling the flop bet. He is clearly going to read you for the ten. He's not going to call that raise with anything you're ahead of, which is one pair of anything (jacks, nines, eights). He might hang around with two pair or a set, in which case he has you beat and you've entered bluffing territory. He's going to raise you with a ten, which is surely what actually happened on this hand. There's almost no scenario that makes it profitable to make your two pair and then starting betting or raising. If you're ahead at that point, he's terrified of the board anyway and won't pay you off. Now look at an alternate turn card:

Js, 9h, 8c, Td
You have: 7h 8h

You made the idiot end of the straight - yay. Now you have to have all these things go your way:

1. he can't have a queen (better straight) which is quite plausible if he led out with QJ or even QT.
2. he can't have a seven also (split pot). Chasing a split is terrible poker.
3. he has to have enough to want to call a bet or two to pay you off enough to compensate for the bad flop call (implied odds). On that board, we're talking about basically top pair good kicker, two pair, or a set. Any weak pair is going to fold to a show of strength.
4. you have to be gutsy enough to bet enough to get paid with your straight - DESPITE all of the above three points. Otherwise it's a losing proposition, because even though you hit your hand and won the pot, you didn't make enough money to cover your bad flop call.

Sorry for the over-analysis, but these are thought processes you should be going through any time you get into a hand like this. Your flop call here is very marginal - unlikely to make you money if you're ahead or move ahead by drawing out, and likely to cost you a lot MORE money sometimes. And of course most of the time you'll just miss and end up folding after calling another bet. Hands like this are money sinkholes.

hand 4 - Ni han.

Thanks man,ive read ur post and i can see my mistake.
God i love this forum,sometimes feels like im reading Dan Harrington's tactics on texas hold em Vol.3 :D