QQ ...OOP

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02-11-2006, 03:11 AM
Les_Worm

QQ ...OOP

Ok, no reads here. How do you like to play this? Do you reraise oop? What do you do on the flop?
Its hard to make a bet on this flop that doesn't scream weak without comitting myself.

PokerStars Game #3933158813: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/02/11 - 03:07:45 (ET)
Table 'Carme IV' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Po Ottis ($8 in chips)
Seat 2: Kismet28 ($27.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Strezzdog ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 4: {Bpizzle11} ($11.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Les_'worm' ($19.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Bazuko ($56.55 in chips)
Les_'worm': posts small blind $0.10
Bazuko: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Les_'worm' [Qs Qc]
Po Ottis: folds
Kismet28: raises $1 to $1.25
Strezzdog: calls $1.25
{Bpizzle11}: folds
Les_'worm': raises $3.25 to $4.50
Bazuko: folds
Kismet28: calls $3.25
Strezzdog: calls $3.25
*** FLOP *** [3h 9s 6d]
Les_'worm'.....
02-11-2006, 08:25 AM
Iwind

I sometimes re-raise with QQ, depends on the players and stuff, but not in this position to a 5x raise and caller, without any reads at all. I mean, now you put yourself in the situation where you pretty much have to commit yourself if you bet. It's so hard to handle big pots out of position I think.

But this flop, I'd certainly bet that out, 2/3 pot or something, if one of them flopped a set or is slowplaying KK/AA, too bad. With your big raise their odds for set-chasing were real bad. And I mean they might call you or push with TT, JJ, A9 or something, or just overcards. I see that happen quite often at the tables I play at least... if they were aggressive players I might bet less and hope they'd push with a worse hand... worked well for me at least:)
02-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Les_Worm

I don't really like to raise oop but I really either wanted to take the pot down now, or get rid of at least one player so I am HU.
02-12-2006, 01:20 AM
K2 the ArmA

I check/raise, that was an awesome flop for you, don't be a wuss. I think everything changes on how they react to that play, i don't think im folding because a sizeable check/raise is probably going to be AI anyways. Let it ride, what better flop were you looking for?
02-12-2006, 01:35 AM
Les_Worm

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2 the ArmA

Let it ride, what better flop were you looking for?

I wouldn't mind QQA.

Either way, I pushed that flop. Villain reraises to shut out the other player and I'm thinking shit hes has AA but really he was just a donk and turned over 64 offsuit.
02-13-2006, 03:37 PM
zenbitz

I like the flop push. It's like broadcasting in high-def " I have AK please go away".
02-13-2006, 04:39 PM
r8ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les_Worm

I don't really like to raise oop but I really either wanted to take the pot down now, or get rid of at least one player so I am HU.

What's wrong with raising QQ OOP? I raise from all positions with QQ+.