ITM all in call?

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02-21-2006, 03:00 PM
Trikflow77

ITM all in call?

This was a party 55....speed tourney......was trying them out

I dont have the HH i was playing on a different computer.....

My read on Count blah....to get my stack i had come over the top of his min raises about 4 times....3 of the 4 times i had ace rag and i knew he was weak. After the 4th time he just pushed all in so i couldnt come over the top. LAG playing a lot of hands.
ITM 3 handed

Hero (11000)
Count blah (6000)
Stimpy (3000)

blinds 400/800

Hero {44} in BB

Stimpy folds, Count Blah is all in (6000).....HERO ????????
02-21-2006, 03:09 PM

You have less than 2 BB, so you have to gamble it up here and hope for a flip, you'll be down to 300 chips if you fold...
02-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Trikflow77

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwarfman

You have less than 2 BB, so you have to gamble it up here and hope for a flip, you'll be down to 300 chips if you fold...

DOH sorry...i had 11k chips...
02-21-2006, 03:20 PM
daluchy

If' he is really pushing any 2 this is a good call. If he's on any loose range I think it's still good enough to be a call.

He's prolly pushing the same hands he was minraising before. You just took so many chips away from him that minraising isnt a good idea for him anymore.
02-21-2006, 05:33 PM
Rockymv

Well it looks like a medium strength hand that he thinks is good enough to steal with but doesn't want to be pushed off of. I think you can rule out AA, KK, QQ, AK. If you call and lose, you still have almost twice as many chips as the short stack. I think I call this. Now I'm going to go check it out in SNGPT....
02-21-2006, 05:35 PM
mcatdog

Without doing the numbers I think I'd want 66+ to call here. Rocky if you posted them that would be great.
02-21-2006, 05:40 PM
Aplomado

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockymv

Well it looks like a minimum strength hand that he thinks is good enough to steal with but doesn't want to be pushed off of. I think you can rule out AA, KK, QQ, AK. If you call and lose, you still have almost twice as many chips as the short stack. I think I call this. Now I'm going to go check it out in SNGPT....

Calling off half your stack on what is almost certainly a coinflip at best? I don't know that I agree with that.
02-21-2006, 05:44 PM
Rockymv

If his range is 22+,A2+,KJ+,QJs, it's plus 0.5%. Remove those big hands and its like 0.9%. So it's pretty close.

EDIT: Ok this is wrong. I was using the Pokerstars blind structure where there's an ante of 50 at this point.
02-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Aplomado

Can we put him on that wide of range with an all-in? He might be playing a lot of hands, but that doesn't he's pushing as many.
02-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Rockymv

It's hard to say without being there, but this sounds like a guy who's pissed that his minraise steals aren't working. If he's getting action to his minraises, then when he picks up a big hand that's exactly what he'll do. This is close enough that I think its a better idea to fold it and push the short stacks blind with any two.
02-22-2006, 03:11 PM
aislephive

I think folding is clear with just 44. In this spot I would wait for 88 or better, I don't like calling more than half of your stack off on what figures to be a race situation at best. If you want to take the flip then you can call this, but I think folding is a better play. I would call the other guy if he pushed, but this guy has enough chips to dent our stack.
02-22-2006, 04:56 PM
Renton

do you really want a coinflip when you are in good position to win this thing without luck? Not to mentiion that Stimpy will be gone soon.
02-22-2006, 05:09 PM
Rockymv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

do you really want a coinflip when you are in good position to win this thing without luck? Not to mentiion that Stimpy will be gone soon.

If you're lucky.