Misc. Feb. hands part 2

#1 My patented turn check against guys who like to float and then steal a lot of pots.

drapup is at seat 1 with 334.77
PingZen is at seat 2 with 406.00
5ofspades is at seat 3 with 472.40
Superdry_ is at seat 4 with 445.30
katy23 is at seat 5 with 68.00

Superdry_ posts the large blind 4.00
5ofspades posts the small blind 2.00

5ofspades: --, --
Superdry_: --, --
katy23: --, --
drapup: --, --
PingZen: 7h, 8d

Pre-flop:

katy23: Fold
drapup: Call 4.00
PingZen: Raise 16.00
5ofspades: Fold
Superdry_: Fold
drapup: Call 16.00

Flop (Board: 5h, 3c, 10s):

drapup: Check
PingZen: Bet 20.00
drapup: Call 20.00

Turn (Board: 5h, 3c, 10s, 8h):

drapup: Check
PingZen: Check

River (Board: 5h, 3c, 10s, 8h, 9c):

drapup: Bet 60.00
PingZen: Call 60.00

#2 He was quite awful, making very stupid raises from the blinds too often.

Paok100 is at seat 1 with 399.76
STANOJ is at seat 2 with 315.80
The Mixxa is at seat 3 with 449.00
PingZen is at seat 4 with 502.10
sayc34 is at seat 5 with 711.65

Paok100 posts the large blind 4.00
sayc34 posts the small blind 2.00

sayc34: --, --
Paok100: --, --
STANOJ: --, --
The Mixxa: --, --
PingZen: Ks, 9s

Pre-flop:

STANOJ: Call 4.00
The Mixxa: Fold
PingZen: Call 4.00
sayc34: Call 4.00
Paok100: Raise 8.00
STANOJ: Call 8.00
PingZen: Call 8.00
sayc34: Call 8.00

Flop (Board: 9c, 6d, 9d):

sayc34: Check
Paok100: Bet 20.00
STANOJ: Fold
PingZen: Raise 56.00
sayc34: Fold
Paok100: Call 56.00

Turn (Board: 9c, 6d, 9d, 7s):

Paok100: Bet 4.00
PingZen: Raise 92.00
Paok100: Call 92.00

River (Board: 9c, 6d, 9d, 7s, 5d):

Paok100: Check
PingZen: Check

#3 Check-raises suck, what is the best line here?

Bumi3 is at seat 1 with 275.71
BetLynch is at seat 2 with 1139.70
sayc34 is at seat 3 with 68.20
PingZen is at seat 4 with 849.60
NKI is at seat 5 with 627.30

BetLynch posts the large blind 8.00
Bumi3 posts the small blind 4.00

Bumi3: --, --
BetLynch: --, --
sayc34: --, --
PingZen: 10c, 10h
NKI: --, --

Pre-flop:

sayc34: Fold
PingZen: Raise 24.00
NKI: Call 24.00
Bumi3: Fold
BetLynch: Fold

Flop (Board: 6c, 5h, 10s):

PingZen: Bet 40.00
NKI: Call 40.00

Turn (Board: 6c, 5h, 10s, Jd):

PingZen: Check
NKI: Bet 48.00
PingZen: Raise 152.00
NKI: Fold

#4 villain is pretty solid regular who knows how to make moves,too.

marctri is at seat 1 with 400.70
Superdry_ is at seat 2 with 363.10
KILIÇ is at seat 3 with 874.79
PingZen is at seat 5 with 397.00

KILIÇ posts the large blind 4.00
Superdry_ posts the small blind 2.00

Superdry_: --, --
KILIÇ: --, --
PingZen: Qd, Jd
marctri: --, --

Pre-flop:

PingZen: Raise 16.00
marctri: Fold
Superdry_: Raise 36.00
KILIÇ: Fold
PingZen: Call 36.00

Flop (Board: 6c, 8s, Jh):

Superdry_: Bet 64.00
PingZen: Call 64.00

Turn (Board: 6c, 8s, Jh, 10s):

Superdry_: Bet 128.00
PingZen: All in
Superdry_: All in

River (Board: 6c, 8s, Jh, 10s, 2d):

I really like how you played #3 out of position with a monster, and I do it once in a while to switch it up. Most of the time you will get a bet on the turn from a worse hand. It is a expecially a good play if you usually C-bet and im sure you do. I think you got the most value out of that hand as you could have cause he didnt have anything and you got 2 good bets out of him. He just called on the flop to try to catch up cause he figured you didnt have much, then you got him to try to steal it on the turn when he missed.

Hand 1: I think you should just fold pre-flop with such a modest hand, if it was suited it's an easy raise. I just don't like raising such weak hands unless the table has been very tight. Anyways, the river call is iffy. You obviously only beat a bluff, so it comes down to how much you really think he's bluffing.

Hand 2: Interesting hand, I like the way you played it on every street. The river card is terrible, completing both flush and straight draws, so I check behind here and hope I'm good.

Hand 3: I think you played it well, except I think a better play is to just call the turn and lead out for a small bet on the river. A lot of times this induces a raise from your opponent on the river, the c/r is fine though.

Hand 4: I don't like the way this hand played out, I would fold pre-flop to his reraise out of position unless he had been doing it a lot. On the flop you should put in a raise. If he has nothing he'll probably fold, and either way you'll be a lot clearer on where you stand in the hand. If he has an overpair he'll almost certainly elect to reraise you, and if he missed with something like AK or AQ he'll probably throw his hand away.

1-
preflop is weird, its not even suited!
you said he might be floating, but people don't really do that out of position. i fold on the river because there are no obvious draws on the flop, so he is less likely to be bluffing with a missed draw. also, i dont think he is floating out of position enough to make this be +EV.

i play 2 and 3 the same

4-
villian is solid and can be tricky, so you call a reraise preflop with QJs with only 100bb stacks? EW. I might call it if stacks were deeper.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pinkviini

#1 My patented turn check against guys who like to float and then steal a lot of pots.

---

He was OOP, floating is normally done in position so I dont know what you are talking about here. Also when did you patent the turn check? Fold the river!

#3 is fine, you probably werent going to get anymore than that no matter how you played the hand.

#4 would villain really lead the turn that strong on a hand that you beat?

Edit: agree with gabe, dump the QJs PF. would rather play suited connector or small pair here than QJs.

#1 was too read dependant to put in here. my apologies. (he didnt really have anything, a representative of a new "I donk but I know you miss most of the time, too"-breed

#4 was a bad play, that is why I posted it. It was 24 more for me to call so PF call is so so (about 6% of the effective stacks). I definitely should've raised on the flop as he wasnt the type of guy to hang around with AK and other missed stuff had I raised. He had KQ and I won. live n' learn, I hope.

hand1
raise dont call imo

hand 2
same

hand 3
tempted to call here rather than raise as opp has shown willingness to put cash into a pot oop where we have a monster hand. Very dependant thsi on what you read him to have. Id like to let a river fall here.

hand 4
yuk :)
unless opp knows you are laggy and will reraise you with a number of less good cards 99/tt or will reraise you with a number of standard hands eh AQ/AK etc.