Fnord vs Lukie II: Lukie Strikes Back

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I raised there because I thought you would fold and wanted to make it perfectly clear that any pot between us may hit 50-200bb with weak hands. I made a couple small misreads, but meh.

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Heh, don't worry Henry, I'm inside your head. And vice versa I'm sure. What I find kinda weird is, while you may disagree, I feel that we are generally the two best players at the table when we are sitting together. Often times in poker when two solid players meet, they tend to stay out of each other's way. When we sit together, in your own words.. things go nuclear. By the way, you should have popped me a third time preflop when you had AA instead of smooth-calling. I had you pegged. Even if you said in this thread you didn't have AA, I wouldn't believe you.

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I have a follow-up that addressess some of this indirectly...

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I'm very interested, but make sure it takes into account the donk-factor...

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Originally Posted by Lukie

Even if you said in this thread you didn't have AA, I wouldn't believe you.

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I don't recall the hand.

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Originally Posted by Lukie

Often times in poker when two solid players meet, they tend to stay out of each other's way. When we sit together, in your own words.. things go nuclear.

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By design.

Of course there's also the 6-max hand where I bumped it up a 2nd time preflop with QQ and he stacked me with 999... and we really havn't played a whole lot together either.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($97.50)
BB ($168.70)
UTG ($80)
MP1 ($351.90)
MP2 ($134.05)
CO (Fnord) ($119.45)
Button ($46.95)

Preflop:
3 folds, CO (Fnord) raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($7) 7:spade:, J:diamond:, 7:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $5, Fnord calls $5.

Turn: ($17) A:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord checks.

River: ($17) 2:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $10, Fnord raises to $30, SB raises to $89.5, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: $136.50

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($24.10)
UTG (Fnord) ($143.30)
UTG+1 ($31)
MP1 ($100.55)
MP2 ($97.50)
CO ($193.15)
Button ($43.55)
SB ($17.50)

Preflop:
UTG (Fnord) raises to $3, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3, MP2 calls $3, CO raises to $16, 3 folds, UTG (Fnord) calls $13, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($39.50) K:spade:, Q:club:, T:heart: (2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets $40, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: $79.50

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($15.40)
UTG+1 ($24)
MP1 ($106.70)
MP2 ($19)
CO (Fnord) ($101.55)
Button ($139.40)
SB ($53.60)
BB ($44)

Preflop:
4 folds, CO (Fnord) raises to $3, Button calls $3, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($12) K:heart:, 3:heart:, 2:club: (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Fnord checks, Button bets $10, SB folds, BB calls $10, Fnord calls $10.

Turn: ($42) 2:diamond: (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets $20, Button raises to $126.4, BB folds, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: $188.40

HH's are all messed up, I used the hide identity thing, but if anyone wants to try to put me on hands, feel free.

Ahh... I remember that hand now. I didn't have Aces, Jacks were good. Nice flop.

In the 3rd hand, the donk in the hand created an interesting dynamic. If you pushed a worse hand there, then good for you.

No respect...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($29.60)
Fnord ($108.40)
UTG ($28.25)
UTG+1 ($10.45)
MP1 ($100.90)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 =(Lukie) ($188.30)
CO ($129.65)
Button ($20.50)

Preflop: Fnord is BB with 4:club:, 3:club:.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 (Lukie) calls $1, 2 folds, SB completes, Fnord checks.

Flop: ($6) J:diamond:, 4:heart:, 4:diamond: (6 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets $4, UTG calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Lukie calls $4, SB folds.

Turn: ($18) 6:spade: (3 players)
Fnord bets $12, UTG calls $12, Lukie folds.

River: ($42) 8:spade: (2 players)
Fnord bets $12, UTG calls $11.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $65.25

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($16.90)
UTG ($141.85)
MP1 =(Lukie)($125.40)
MP2 ($91.15)
CO ($71.85)
Button ($115.95)
Fnord ($99)

Preflop: Fnord is SB with 5:club:, J:club:.
UTG calls $1, MP1 =(Lukie) calls $1, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, Fnord completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 4:diamond:, 6:spade:, J:diamond: (5 players)
Fnord checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Lukie checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($5) 6:club: (5 players)
Fnord bets $3, BB folds, UTG folds, Lukie calls $3, MP2 folds.

River: ($11) A:spade: (2 players)
Fnord checks, Lukie checks.

Final Pot: $11

Results in white below:
Fnord has 5c Jc (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Lukie has 8h 8s (two pair, eights and sixes).
Outcome: Fnord wins $11.

Huh? I thought I posted this in your 'Implied threat' thread in the HS forum. Oops.

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Originally Posted by Lukie

Huh? I thought I posted this in your 'Implied threat' thread in the HS forum. Oops.

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I moved it.

Ah, ok. I thought I went into the sticky to get the converter link and hit the post new topic button or something. I'm curious to hear what you had on the KQT flop hand. I had QQ. I figure you fold all non-pairs preflop to the big RR by the nit, especially considering there were 2 still to act behind you. When you call and the others fold, I completely understand that KK-AA is in your range here to trap. KK obviously folds here never, TT I can't see happening, AK I don't think see's a flop, and AA can be folded pretty easily on this flop given preflop play. I suppose you probably think you have implied odds to hit a set, although It's unlikely I stack off on a non-Q board. I suppose a mid pair or AK would make sense. Given action on both streets I was pretty sure you had AA.

When you had 43s, I don't even remember what I had. If I had to venture a guess, It would probably be some suited garbage, maybe Ax of diamonds coupled with wanting to play my position. I really don't know. Actually.. I think I do remember. Let's see here...

No respect?? are you crazy???????


POKERSTARS GAME #4069307970: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/02/23 - 04:04:28 (ET)
Table 'Virgo V' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: hung_420 ($29.60 in chips)
Seat 2: HenryFnord ($108.40 in chips)
Seat 3: princebalf ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 4: rhey73 ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 5: supersta22 ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 6: MoneyG2000 ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: Lukieplaya ($188.30 in chips)
Seat 8: CordeleRele ($129.65 in chips)
Seat 9: jacob_BU ($20.50 in chips)
hung_420: posts small blind $0.50
HenryFnord: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [As Jh]
princebalf said, "see didnt i draise preflop?"
princebalf: calls $1
rhey73: folds
supersta22: calls $1
MoneyG2000: calls $1
Lukieplaya: calls $1
CordeleRele: folds
jacob_BU: folds
hung_420: calls $0.50
HenryFnord: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd 4h 4d]
hung_420: checks
HenryFnord: bets $4
princebalf said, "and got called not by 1 but 2 bad hands"
princebalf: calls $4
supersta22: folds
MoneyG2000: folds
Lukieplaya: calls $4
hung_420: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 4h 4d] [6s]
HenryFnord: bets $12
princebalf: calls $12
Lukieplaya: folds
*** RIVER *** [Jd 4h 4d 6s] [8s]
HenryFnord: bets $12
princebalf: calls $11.25 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HenryFnord: shows [4c 3c] (three of a kind, Fours)
princebalf: mucks hand
HenryFnord collected $61.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64.50 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 4h 4d 6s 8s]
Seat 1: hung_420 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: HenryFnord (big blind) showed [4c 3c] and won ($61.50) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 3: princebalf mucked [Ad 2d]
Seat 4: rhey73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: supersta22 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: MoneyG2000 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Lukieplaya folded on the Turn
Seat 8: CordeleRele folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jacob_BU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I really am a nit. :)

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Originally Posted by Fnord

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Originally Posted by Lukie

Huh? I thought I posted this in your 'Implied threat' thread in the HS forum. Oops.

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I moved it.

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sorry for hijacking your thread by the way. didn't mean to.