Standard?

200NL, 6 max

AA on the button, I have raised quite a lot recently in this position and followed it up with continuation bets.

I raise to $8, SB (who i feel is a loose caller pf and on the flop) calls as does the BB (haven't seen him get out of line).

Flop is QJT rainbow, checked to me and i bet $16 into the $24 pot. SB calls and BB raises to $48. I fold.

Yeah.

Yeah, the board is scary

nice fold you weak tighty.

Are you thinking definitely two pair or a set here? Would people at $200 never do this with TPTK and position to find out where they stand?

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Originally Posted by biondino

Are you thinking definitely two pair or a set here? Would people at $200 never do this with TPTK and position to find out where they stand?

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Easy fold.

What do you do if you call the check raise, and he bets again on the turn? On the river?

How much are you risking to see if you are good?

You have 6 outs vs a set or two pair and they are pretty clean (except for the broadway split). You even have an extra 3 outs vs two pair (although you don't know which - Qs/Js/Ts)

Pot odds are 48/104 = 2:1 ish.

I think folding AA here is too weak. I think calling is kinda bad because 6 outs isn't that much. Plus, these guys could KQ or something.

Re-raise.... I have no idea how much. Fold to a push - so low enough that you don't give yourself pot odds to call a push. I think even a min-re-raise is OK. If you get a call - then you are probably ahead.

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Originally Posted by zenbitz

You have 6 outs vs a set or two pair and they are pretty clean (except for the broadway split). You even have an extra 3 outs vs two pair (although you don't know which - Qs/Js/Ts)

Pot odds are 48/104 = 2:1 ish.

I think folding AA here is too weak. I think calling is kinda bad because 6 outs isn't that much. Plus, these guys could KQ or something.

Re-raise.... I have no idea how much. Fold to a push - so low enough that you don't give yourself pot odds to call a push. I think even a min-re-raise is OK. If you get a call - then you are probably ahead.

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Against your average player on this board I am almost never ahead here when they check raise (especially in a 3-way pot). So unless I have a read on the player that he is capable of semibluffing TP with OESD here I am laying this down because most players learn very quickly that you dont try to bluff that board because it hits a number of hands I could have raised preflop with very hard (AK, QQ, JJ, TT).

You're definatly crushed.

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Originally Posted by zenbitz

Re-raise.... I have no idea how much.

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Reraise when you might be slightly ahead, but are probably crushed? This is absurd. Flops like these are the absolute worst for pocket aces in a raised pot. Minimize losses and fold.

OK, I play against over aggressive loose morons, or I am one. Or both.

If this is heads up (no flat caller in the middle) is it still a clear fold?

I usually fold this.