teach me how to PF reraise in 6MAX for godz sake

this has to be the weakest part of my game. poker tracker is telling me i don't even know what PF reraising even means. and it's something i have really noticed in the last few weeks, when i feel like maybe this is a good spot to reraise, but don't do it. i would like to hear how you guys approach reraising PF in general in shorthanded ring games, narrative descriptions would be fine and if you want to include specific sitations w/ HHs that would also be fine. i am desparate, because i have become keenly aware of the power of PF RRzes in 6MAX lately. i especially want to hear from those of you who warn that reraising w/ AA/KK/AK PF is not a great idea unless you do it enough w/ other holdings to make it more difficult for opponents to put you on a top 5 hand.

some ideas that come to mind as reasons to reraise more often preflop, please deal w/ them as a group or individually depending on your mood:

+masks PFRRzes you make w/ premium holdings, getting you more action when you DO have a monster
+leverages position by PFRRzing an OOP raisor to find out if they're the type of player who will call ANY reraise or if they have any sort of selectivity whatsoever
+comes in really handy in those Ax vs. Ax sitations when an Ace falls on flop
+gets people off better, but still relatively weak, hands post flop (i.e. your AJ reraise in position vs. a 77 bettor->RRcaller on a K94 flop)
+works really well with a continuation bet to tell you if you're bwned or not (ie do they CR push you all in from OOP on flop, or do they push over you in position)

i'm about ready to start experimenting w/ RRzing somewhat but wanted some good insight from you guys before i just start shooting the lights out.

Man this is the weakest part in my online 6-max game as well. Was the weakest part of my live game, only recently began to patch it up.

Situation #1: Im playing 100 NL 6-max and this happens:

I limp with AA UTG. Fold. Fold. Button makes it 4x BB. Fold. Fold. Do I smooth-call or reraise here and why? Button has a 40x BB stack.

My choice (good? bad?): Smooth call.
Reasoning: I feel with the opp's stack size they are likely to get attached to any pair or draw they make on the flop. Since they were the pre-flop raiser they are also likely to bet if they get any piece of the flop. I feel because they are raising on the button, they have a particularly weak hand and it will be hard for them to catch up with AA. I dont want to let them know that their hand is way behind. So I smooth call and opt for check-raise on any flop (barring monotone of not my suit).

Situation #2: 100 NL 6-max

I have AKo on the button. Fold. UTG+1 raises to 3x BB. Fold. I smooth call or reraise?

My choice (good? bad?): Reraise to 8x BB.
Reasoning: I feel like the opp has a pocket pair TT-AA, throwing AK, AQ, and maybe some suited connectors. I want to find out if Im up against AA or KK, since I dont want to be playing against those hands. I feel like my opp will only rereraise with AA or KK here, so that lets me find that info out. The rest of the time the opp has a pocket pair thats flipping with me or an inferior ace or maybe a suited connector. The suited connector goes away to a reraise here, and the medium-high pocket pairs call. Still a little confused about this one..

Possible hands I may reraise with preflop. AA-88, AK-AJs, AKo and AQo
I might reraise a lag with 77, AJo and KQo.

***This is not including other hands that I might reraise with from the Blinds.

spinoli--I will more often than not, RR AKs/o with position.
Lets say your opponent DID have QQ and you DON'T reraise with AK.

Flop = AXX or Kxx.

In those situations your opponent gets off easily and you will not get paid off [except for the preflop money].

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Originally Posted by spino1i

I limp with AA UTG. Fold. Fold. Button makes it 4x BB. Fold. Fold. Do I smooth-call or reraise here and why? Button has a 40x BB stack.

My choice (good? bad?): Smooth call.
Reasoning: I feel with the opp's stack size they are likely to get attached to any pair or draw they make on the flop. Since they were the pre-flop raiser they are also likely to bet if they get any piece of the flop. I feel because they are raising on the button, they have a particularly weak hand and it will be hard for them to catch up with AA. I dont want to let them know that their hand is way behind. So I smooth call and opt for check-raise on any flop (barring monotone of not my suit).

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Most important part of this situation is stack size. I like what you're doing here by NOT RRzing PF. OK so I will assume that you have 100+BB here, and you state that he's got 40BB. So his 4x raise is 10%, and that is what I call a committment. He will want to protect that committment w/ another bet on ANY flop (if he's good enough to check a KK behind on a flopped ace checked to him, then he should be good enough to cap off his stack). that would be ~8-10BBs more, so the scripted checkraise is going to get all your money in while ahead on even the best draws, and he may very well feel like he's still ahead if he does hit TPTK or similar. Good line.

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Originally Posted by spino1i

Situation #2: 100 NL 6-max

I have AKo on the button. Fold. UTG+1 raises to 3x BB. Fold. I smooth call or reraise?

My choice (good? bad?): Reraise to 8x BB.
Reasoning: I feel like the opp has a pocket pair TT-AA, throwing AK, AQ, and maybe some suited connectors. I want to find out if Im up against AA or KK, since I dont want to be playing against those hands. I feel like my opp will only rereraise with AA or KK here, so that lets me find that info out. The rest of the time the opp has a pocket pair thats flipping with me or an inferior ace or maybe a suited connector. The suited connector goes away to a reraise here, and the medium-high pocket pairs call. Still a little confused about this one..

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Here you can combine the strength of your hand and the strength of your position as solid justification for making the RR. The only thing w/ AK PFRRzes is that the Cbet you make might just be on your two overs, and no meat, so if they can put you on AK even w/ 1010 on a 942 board, you might expose yourself to a nasty CR more often. So mixing in a few calls w/ AK will help that. But yeah, since you're a flip or better against JJ on down for PPs, get the money in when you're (slightly) ahead.

Incidentally, this is why I all but stopped raising SCs from EP like UTG or UTG+1 unless it's a real pushover table. Now I limp and call the end raise instead for less than half the price and all the position aggression demonstrated by the opp :)

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Originally Posted by sunfunbunch

Possible hands I may reraise with preflop. AA-88, AK-AJs, AKo and AQo
I might reraise a lag with 77, AJo and KQo.

***This is not including other hands that I might reraise with from the Blinds.

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Your PFRR range expands in the SB/BB??? Can you explain that please? I have been more likely to reraise while in position and less likely to PFRR in the blinds so I am curious to hear your reasoning for the expansion here.

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Originally Posted by sunfunbunch

spinoli--I will more often than not, RR AKs/o with position.
Lets say your opponent DID have QQ and you DON'T reraise with AK.

Flop = AXX or Kxx.

In those situations your opponent gets off easily and you will not get paid off [except for the preflop money].

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Another good reason to PFRR AKs/o when in position, thanks for pointing that out.

Yeah, I'm more likely to expand my RR hands out of the BB if I know that it's basically a steal attempt with position.

Then I'll go ahead and RR AA-77, AKs-A9s and AKo-ATo.

It all depends.

IF UTG or MTP goes for a Raise I more than likely JUST call.
**IF the CO or Button keep trying to steal when no one else is in the pot, then I'll go ahead and RR the above mentioned hands.

IF you play the button passively vs those type of players then they are INSTANTLY making a profit of you. I just let them know, it won't be THAT easy
:cool:

i reraise 99+ AJs + on the BB against late position raises.

i also reraise a wide range of hands against people people that raise alot.
it helps my shania:
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Do you cbet the flop since you will be first to act? Or do you mix that up? I very rarely reraise preflop because most people calling the initial raiser will come in with any two suited if the initial raiser calls since they will have better odds (depending on stack sizes). Plus, I have trouble laying down hands when I hit the flop (in any way) after being the preflop leader. I know I have to work on both.

A preflop reraise saved my ass last night. I raised with 66 EP, got one caller and the short stack on the button reraises to > 10% his stack size. So, I fold not knowing if the middle 1.5x stack will call. Tempting to call, but I didn't. I had 1.5x stack too. I hit my set on the flop, but so did the middle guy with KK. 150 euros saved.

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Originally Posted by r8ed

Do you cbet the flop since you will be first to act? Or do you mix that up? I very rarely reraise preflop because most people calling the initial raiser will come in with any two suited if the initial raiser calls since they will have better odds (depending on stack sizes).

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if i bet preflop i will bet the majority of the time on the flop no matter what. i'll throw in a check here and there, like if i RRzed w/ AK and it comes 9d8d7h or something awful like that. but most of the time i make the cbet. i DO vary my BB flop lead out bet size considerably, whether or not i have a hand, anywhere from 1/2 to full pot size. and this is not dependent upon the strengths of my holdings as much as what i believe the perception of my opponent is on my recent BB play.

At those frikken Euro sites they MAKE you throw down a second barrel if you want to take the pot down.

They'll usually call the C-bet with ANYTHING. It can get irritating, so sometimes I rather raise smaller than bigger. I dunno.. I'm still trying to figure that out.

Help??? :)

then throw down a second barrel, more money for you since they called the first one.

spino1i, thats totally an abyss from magic the gathering