Another 100NL hand argghhh

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04-05-2006, 03:31 AM
MNMP2

Another 100NL hand argghhh

Another hand. I am posting these because I dont know if it just my play/betting causing this, or am I just on a really bad run right now. Cant seem to do anything right at all.

I have a read on villain here - he is loose passive (fishy), raising 6xbb with any PP down to 22 and any 2 paint cards. If he hits the flop, he re-raises big, and usually just goes all in if he hits trips. Figured on this flop, with the way he reacted to my bet that I had him beat. I was worried about any big cards coming that he could pair up and so I wasnt thinking about the strt.

How could I have played this differently?

No Limit $0.50/$1
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Hand Start.
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has $85.50
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 2 : david050 has $39.75
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 3 : car pen ter has $12.25
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 4 : sol sixa has $57.50
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 5 : bb100 has $99.25
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 6 : dontjump has $183
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 7 : babayaga has $82
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 8 : SKIJACK has $187.75
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 9 : TwistedOne has $86
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : babayaga is the dealer.
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : SKIJACK posted small blind.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : TwistedOne posted big blind.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Game [8079] started with 9 players.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:07:39] : Prophet6 called $1
[Apr 5 00:07:40] : david050 folded.
[Apr 5 00:07:44] : car pen ter folded.
[Apr 5 00:07:45] : sol sixa called $1
[Apr 5 00:08:14] : bb100 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Apr 5 00:08:15] : bb100 folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:20] : dontjump called $1 and raised $5
[Apr 5 00:08:20] : babayaga folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:22] : SKIJACK folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:24] : TwistedOne folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:26] : Prophet6 called $5
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : sol sixa called $5
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : Dealing flop.
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d]
[Apr 5 00:08:33] : Prophet6 bet $4
[Apr 5 00:08:35] : sol sixa folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:37] : dontjump called $4
[Apr 5 00:08:38] : Dealing turn.
[Apr 5 00:08:38] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d 4h]
[Apr 5 00:08:42] : Prophet6 bet $6
[Apr 5 00:08:45] : dontjump called $6
[Apr 5 00:08:46] : Dealing river.
[Apr 5 00:08:46] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d 4h 3s]
[Apr 5 00:08:51] : Prophet6 bet $9
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : dontjump called $9
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : Showdown!
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:08:55] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : Prophet6 has Pair: 8s
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : Seat 6 : dontjump has Jd Ad
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : dontjump has Straight 5432A
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : dontjump wins $54.75 with Straight 5432A
[Apr 5 00:09:05] : Hand is over.
04-05-2006, 04:17 AM
BankItDrew

check/fold that river. if u bet, u will only get called by a hand that beats you. if they have been calling with a pair higher than 88 or a Q in hand or even on a straight draw, your beat.
04-05-2006, 04:17 AM
BankItDrew

*double post*
in exchange, look at alba again
04-05-2006, 06:52 AM
jackvance

Pot is $15. Betting $4 really is saying: "Ok guys, I got nothing." (got this from a friend of mine who beats 100NL)
04-05-2006, 10:09 AM
sejje

I bet the flop harder than that with any two after I raise preflop.

Agree with check/folding the river. Any hand you beat is going to check behind. Lots of hands call.
04-05-2006, 11:02 AM
Renton

check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Sure, your read was correct and you were ahead this time, but most of the time it just isn't, and you just aren't.
04-05-2006, 12:36 PM
sejje

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Seriously? Don't you cbet AK high on this flop?

I bet this one every time.
04-05-2006, 12:41 PM
Rondavu

Why you bet into a river that wheels any ace is beyond me. One of the easiest laydowns IMO against someone who chases overcards.
04-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Renton

Quote:

Originally Posted by sejje

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Seriously? Don't you cbet AK high on this flop?

Not OOP three ways.

Heads up or in position, I bet out every time, but when I limp a pair OOP I am looking to hit a set and that is all.
04-05-2006, 09:24 PM
MNMP2

Rondavu, you are right, I should seen the Ax beating me here.

The reason I bet the flop was actually to save money in that I KNEW that if he hit that Q or had overpair he would re-raise, because thats what this guy was doing all night. So I figure the flop bet would tell me if he hit that Q or a set there.

Now after reading some responses, I am thinking a bet of about $8-$10 on that flop and then check it down the rest of the way if hea calls that.

Shoulda seen that straight........
04-05-2006, 09:30 PM
freechus9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNMP2

Rondavu, you are right, I should seen the Ax beating me here.

The reason I bet the flop was actually to save money in that I KNEW that if he hit that Q or had overpair he would re-raise, because thats what this guy was doing all night. So I figure the flop bet would tell me if he hit that Q or a set there.

Now after reading some responses, I am thinking a bet of about $8-$10 on that flop and then check it down the rest of the way if hea calls that.

Shoulda seen that straight........

Problem with that is if I saw you bet 4 dollars in to a 15 dollar pot I'd raise you with any 2 because you'd fold for the precise reason you said you would.
04-05-2006, 09:37 PM
MNMP2

Would you do that if I bet $10 on that flop?

But this guy I KNEW would not reraise ANY flop bet if he didnt have TP or hit a set. I have the read on this particular player.

But I'd still ike to know what you would have done if I bet $10
04-05-2006, 10:33 PM
drmcboy

I'm not sure what else to say beyond move down a limit. Not seeing 2345 on the board is not OK. If you can't read the board, 50NL still has plenty you can learn. I'm trying not to be harsh, I feel bad that you're throwing money away.
04-05-2006, 10:45 PM
MNMP2

I think my game is just off right now, with missing that strt. It was late and I was just ending my session when this hand came up - I probably should have stopped a 1/2 hour earlier.

When I started this little losing streak, I moved down to $50. Played for an hour and a half, won $106.00. bb/100 was 118 in PT - lol.

I have killed 50nl, thats how I built most of my bankroll. I am determined to get my head straight, my game in order and play this level.