ilikeaces86 pwns Joe Hachem

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05-04-2006, 06:36 PM
fjuanl

ilikeaces86 pwns Joe Hachem

PokerStars Game #4828970468: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2006/05/04 - 06:14:40 (ET)
Table 'Ianthe V' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Lyric ($1980 in chips)
Seat 2: H@££INGGOL ($4627 in chips)
Seat 3: fumbo420 ($1950 in chips)
Seat 4: B Buddy ($1950 in chips)
Seat 5: l[Ja_Cks]l ($2197 in chips)
Seat 6: ilikeaces86 ($2344 in chips)
Seat 7: JoeHachem ($2221 in chips)
Seat 8: gandi9 ($3367.50 in chips)
Seat 9: arulx ($2830 in chips)
ilikeaces86: posts small blind $10
JoeHachem: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
gandi9: folds
arulx: raises $60 to $80
Lyric: folds
H@££INGGOL: calls $80
fumbo420: folds
B Buddy: folds
l[Ja_Cks]l: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $260 to $340
JoeHachem: raises $800 to $1140
arulx: folds
H@££INGGOL: folds
ilikeaces86: raises $1204 to $2344 and is all-in
JoeHachem: calls $1081 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [7c 3c 9d]
*** TURN *** [7c 3c 9d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7c 3c 9d 3s] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ilikeaces86: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
JoeHachem: shows [Kd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
ilikeaces86 collected $4599 from pot
JoeHachem said, "nh"
JoeHachem leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4602 | Rake $3
Board [7c 3c 9d 3s 6d]
Seat 1: Lyric folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: H@££INGGOL folded before Flop
Seat 3: fumbo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: B Buddy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: l[Ja_Cks]l (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ilikeaces86 (small blind) showed [Ad Ac] and won ($4599) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: JoeHachem (big blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 8: gandi9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: arulx folded before Flop
05-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Fnord

Change your title to: The deck pwns luckbox tourney player of the year.
05-04-2006, 07:21 PM
zenbitz

Can anyone make a laydown here getting >2:1 with KK? TJ Cloutier?
05-04-2006, 07:43 PM
Genitruc

Lol Fnord. What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome. Am not aware of millions of suckouts...

Btw I think against ilikeaces86 this is a clear fold. Not sure I could do it, but you are basically praying for KK no?
05-04-2006, 07:48 PM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

Lol Fnord. What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome. Am not aware of millions of suckouts...

Btw I think against ilikeaces86 this is a clear fold. Not sure I could do it, but you are basically praying for KK no?

luck in tournaments is alot more than just suckouts.

also, if he had stats on aces, yes he should fold because aces is such a nit!
05-04-2006, 08:01 PM
Genitruc

Yes Gabe I agree luck in tournaments is a lot more than suckouts. It's timing. But the fact that Hachem was unproven doesn't justify his being given the label luckbox.

From what I saw he played well. Kanter on the other hand...
05-04-2006, 09:30 PM
PO$$E$$ED

another poorly titled thread with zero content
05-04-2006, 09:38 PM
Genitruc

LOL. True about the lack of content. What are we supposed to say? Dood should have folded KK? Aces pwns for having aces?
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Corey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

LOL. True about the lack of content. What are we supposed to say? Dood should have folded KK? Aces pwns for having aces?

nope no folding KK just the luck of the draw period
05-05-2006, 12:21 AM
Bmxicle

I fold to the three bet for metagame reasons.
05-05-2006, 01:20 AM
WhooFleuryScores

Quote:

Can anyone make a laydown here getting >2:1 with KK? TJ Cloutier?

I lay this down.The reraise/push almsot always scrneas AA.

FOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-05-2006, 02:14 AM
Lukie

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenbitz

Can anyone make a laydown here getting >2:1 with KK? TJ Cloutier?

No, he's completely pot struck after the 3rd raise. JH is getting about 3.25:1 on his money, almost good enough to call even if aces has aces every time.

Hachem has almost the exact equity he needs to call here even if aces range is exactly KK/AA here and nothing else.
05-05-2006, 03:26 AM
WildBobAA

Hachem's thought process: who the fuck cares if he has AA I won 7 million and make a bajillion dollars in endorsements
05-05-2006, 10:57 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome.

Hachem probably is a pretty good player. He's still the token tourney luckbox of the year. There probably will be yet another one next year too...
05-05-2006, 12:21 PM
Pingviini

the only interesting thing here is why was ilikeaces86 playing 10/20 on stars with some of the very best players like b buddy and h@l..
05-05-2006, 01:25 PM
Muxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingviini

the only interesting thing here is why was ilikeaces86 playing 10/20 on stars with some of the very best players like b buddy and h@l..

because he can most likley make +EV shots at this game when he see's the situation arise.
05-05-2006, 01:31 PM
givememyleg

JoeHachem said, "nh"
JoeHachem leaves the table

I think that's why you can say PWN.
05-05-2006, 01:41 PM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingviini

the only interesting thing here is why was ilikeaces86 playing 10/20 on stars with some of the very best players like b buddy and h@l..

gandhi and arulx are pretty great too

he was there probably because of that one tourney donk he just stacked...
05-05-2006, 02:34 PM
mcatdog

l[Ja_Cks]l is a tourney player too. I lost to him heads-up in a $20/180-man SNG a couple of months ago. He was definitely the best player at that final table but I wouldn't have imagined he was good enough to be a winning player at 10/20 against H@££INGGOL, B Buddy, and gandi9.
05-05-2006, 02:37 PM
LimpinAintEZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBobAA

Hachem's thought process: who the fuck cares if he has AA I won 7 million and make a bajillion dollars in endorsements

exactly! with KK, and a 7mil $ bankroll, he makes this call instantly - Plus, he didn't just GO AI instantly, he made a substantial raise with a premium hand and then Called a re-raise when he was nearly commited -Come on now - Most players I see won't lay down KK - let alone a multimillionaire who's entire account balance could just be 1/10th of his pokerstars endorsement $$ - everyone talking about pot odds and what a lucky player he is....I call with KK everytime at $25NL and my BR is only $500....Put it this way - If you are playing $5 NL and have KK - Are you laying that down to a $5 AI Reraise? That's about the equivalent of what this probably means to hachem - :D

put down the hater-ade people -
05-06-2006, 02:13 PM
ilikeaces86

Im such a LAG
05-06-2006, 02:19 PM
lolzzz_321

Yep
05-06-2006, 02:26 PM
ilikeaces86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I fold to the three bet for metagame reasons.

????
05-08-2006, 04:56 PM
zenbitz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I fold to the three bet for metagame reasons.

????

Ya, WTF? You get KK so much that you can fold it here to induce re-raises when you have... AA?
05-08-2006, 05:16 PM
dsaxton

Nice tale of poker.
05-09-2006, 11:34 AM
Muxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsaxton

Nice tale of poker.

stop being a bag of douche karen
05-09-2006, 03:26 PM
lolzzz_321

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I fold to the three bet for metagame reasons.

sarcasm warning
05-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Renton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome.

Hachem probably is a pretty good player. He's still the token tourney luckbox of the year. There probably will be yet another one next year too...

I think that out of the last three wsopme winners Raymer was the only really great player.

But he IS fat, so....
05-09-2006, 03:48 PM
LimpinAintEZ

don't be rippin on Raymer too much - I work at a Patent Law Office and one of our partners here was talking to me about poker the other day - He said he read several of Raymers printed articles and he was QUITE a Patent Attorney - Good player, good attorney -

I'd still leave that wife of his though if I was that rich - Even if it cost me 2.5 mil :)
05-09-2006, 05:21 PM
ilikeaces86

OOOWWWNNNNEEDD JOE HACHEM OOOOOWWWNNNNEEEEDDD
07-28-2006, 11:54 PM
Ash256

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

Kanter on the other hand...

*Vomits*

How the F*^k did he get that deep?!
07-29-2006, 01:39 AM
DrawingDead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hachem has almost the exact equity he needs to call here even if aces range is exactly KK/AA here and nothing else.

I disagree. If ilikeaces86's range here is exactly KK/AA
then from Hachem's perspective,
ilikeaces is 6:1 to have AA not KK.
(Excluding Hachem's hole cards,
there are 6 pairs of aces, only 1 pair of kings).
So Hachem would need 6.5:0.5 = 13:1 to call here,
not close to the 3.25:1 he's getting.
07-29-2006, 02:36 AM
Jimmy Mac

Quote:

I disagree. If ilikeaces86's range here is exactly KK/AA
then from Hachem's perspective,
ilikeaces is 6:1 to have AA not KK.
(Excluding Hachem's hole cards,
there are 6 pairs of aces, only 1 pair of kings).
So Hachem would need 6.5:0.5 = 13:1 to call here,
not close to the 3.25:1 he's getting

don't really understand your math. Even if aces always has aces here, JH is still only a 4-1 underdog. Against AA/KK it's as Lukie said, according to pokerstove :

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 22.6177 % 15.59% 07.03% { KdKs }
Hand 2: 77.3823 % 70.35% 07.03% { KK+ }
07-29-2006, 09:11 AM
yyellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrawingDead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hachem has almost the exact equity he needs to call here even if aces range is exactly KK/AA here and nothing else.

I disagree. If ilikeaces86's range here is exactly KK/AA
then from Hachem's perspective,
ilikeaces is 6:1 to have AA not KK.
(Excluding Hachem's hole cards,
there are 6 pairs of aces, only 1 pair of kings).
So Hachem would need 6.5:0.5 = 13:1 to call here,
not close to the 3.25:1 he's getting.

how can he be a 13:1 dog here, if he is only a 4:1 vs aces :C
07-29-2006, 09:18 AM
DrawingDead

Quote:

Originally Posted by yyellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrawingDead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hachem has almost the exact equity he needs to call here even if aces range is exactly KK/AA here and nothing else.

I disagree. If ilikeaces86's range here is exactly KK/AA
then from Hachem's perspective,
ilikeaces is 6:1 to have AA not KK.
(Excluding Hachem's hole cards,
there are 6 pairs of aces, only 1 pair of kings).
So Hachem would need 6.5:0.5 = 13:1 to call here,
not close to the 3.25:1 he's getting.

how can he be a 13:1 dog here, if he is only a 4:1 vs aces :C

My mistake!

Hachem would need about (6*0.8+1*0.5) : (6:0.2+1*0.5)=3.12:1 to call,
which he's getting.

Which agrees with Lukie.
07-29-2006, 09:20 AM
a500lbgorilla

standard ilikeaces86 hand.

1) Get dealt AA
2) ?????
3) Profit
07-29-2006, 09:55 AM
Miffed22001

was this a bump?
08-03-2006, 10:46 AM
ripjohngotti

Rumor has it this guy spent all his winnings(lost on gambling) This true?...
08-03-2006, 02:14 PM
martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

Rumor has it this guy spent all his winnings(lost on gambling) This true?...

mike matusow anyone?
08-24-2006, 05:24 AM
maxxscam

i played blackjack with kanter at the rio at this years wsop he seemd like a nice guy was playin 10$ per hand and busted so i bought him a drink lol. played with dan nassif as well the dude that got 9th this year a couple hours after he busted. he still hadnt realized he had just become a millionaire and was also playing 5$ per hand just to chill and relax, both were nice guys.
08-24-2006, 06:30 AM
Miffed22001

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

standard ilikeaces86 hand.

1) Get dealt AA
2) ?????
3) Profit

everytime i see this it still makes me laugh.
08-24-2006, 06:36 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome.

Hachem probably is a pretty good player. He's still the token tourney luckbox of the year. There probably will be yet another one next year too...

*bump*
08-24-2006, 06:52 PM
ilikeaces86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

What I say from Hachem at WSOP was good, at times awesome.

Hachem probably is a pretty good player. He's still the token tourney luckbox of the year. There probably will be yet another one next year too...

*bump*

In the maybe 500 hands I have played against him he is def a fish at 10/20 NL.(hachem)
08-25-2006, 05:28 PM
outphase

you should have totally said "PASS THE SUGAR!"