is this a obv. set

***** Hand History for Game 4247379267 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 12, 01:50:34 ET 2006
Table Table 99037 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: bruce_r ( $43.65 )
Seat 2: MsBehavior ( $21.85 )
Seat 4: CAboulderer ( $49.75 )
Seat 5: Caveat_Emptor ( $48.65 )
Seat 7: Georgiadogg ( $57.48 )
Seat 8: dkdub ( $31.90 )
Seat 9: takano96 ( $111.76 )
Seat 10: gorilaforila ( $87.45 )
Seat 3: res077y1 ( $12.50 )
Seat 6: Kazukis ( $44.50 )
bruce_r posts small blind [$0.25].
MsBehavior posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gorilaforila [ Kh 8h ]
CAboulderer calls [$0.50].
Caveat_Emptor folds.
Kazukis folds.
Georgiadogg folds.
dkdub folds.
takano96 folds.
gorilaforila raises [$2].
bruce_r folds.
MsBehavior folds.
CAboulderer calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Ks, Jd ]
CAboulderer bets [$3.25].
gorilaforila raises [$7].
CAboulderer raises [$14.75].

KJ or set....or AK if hes passive preflop...or KdQd, KdTd

I think the idea that he limped puts him in the basic strategy much more likely that he has 22 than KJ although I'm sure that I"m beat

lots of people at 50nl limp kj,kt,kq from utg

thats a lot of bad players, in my experiences with 50nl i see more people having a set here but i think i'm picking bad tables

just to mention I didn't have a read for him to be bad or good

No matter what it is, its a clear fold to his re-raise. If I make a speculative play opening with K8s and get bet into on that flop. I'll often just let it go.

agreed, I wouldn't even have made the raise. If he calls your raise and then bets into the raiser it normally signifies strength.

Its either a set or a limped KJ (many players likes to limp KJ in full ring)

q: is this a obv. set?
a: probably not. Most people I play with at 50NL would call the raise and try to get you to commit more on the turn. He has KJ. I dont mind the raise prf and on the flop as a steal, but it's a definate fold to his reraise

I happen to know the villain of this hand; he's a major shark and probably a 15BB/100 winner at 50 NL game on Party (you should see him at 400 NL in a couple of weeks). You are way behind here. Fold. Villain most likely has AK. I know his limping utg range very well, and it does not include KJ or KQ. JJ is a small possibility but I dont think he bets into you with that.

spinoi, AdQd? 9dTd?

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Originally Posted by Lukie

spinoi, AdQd? 9dTd?

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AdQd is a very small possiblity, though I dont think he would 3-bet his draws unless he thought the guy he was playing against was bluffable (and most people arent at 50 NL). He wouldnt limp 9dTd utg.