Calling Raise/re-Raise with low PP

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05-23-2006, 03:33 PM
djzcko

Calling Raise/re-Raise with low PP

I know the general rule of thumb for calling pf raises with low PP's. Just wondering if there are any other reasons you would call or fold this pre-flop...

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG+1 ($18.65)
UTG+2 ($27.45)
Hero ($24.75)
MP2 ($29.75)
MP3 ($35.45)
CO ($25.55)
Button ($43.70)
SB ($29.65)
BB ($18.00)
UTG ($60.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3c.gif.

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $2.15, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $5.25, Hero ?
05-23-2006, 03:40 PM
geoffm33

I wouldn't call with pocket 3's. UTG+1 only has a stack of (after the re-raise) of 2.5x the amount you need to call. From what I've read, you should call the raise/reraise if the remaining stack of the raiser is atleast 10x what you need to call. Since you'll flop your set 1 in 8 times and hopefully stack him. If I've got this wrong someone please correct me.
05-23-2006, 03:42 PM
AHiltz

gets the hell out of Dodge while the gettins good. Against 1 opp you are at best a flip, but against 2 you are in shit. Since it's a reraise to 1/5 of a stack, and there is the initial raiser yet to act, you can be sure that there's going to be some fireworks.
05-23-2006, 03:52 PM
bair

you are up at least 1 and probably 2 overpairs, so in order to win you have to hit a set, and even if you do hit a set, you are going to be scared when an A,K, or Q hits the board. definite fold.
05-23-2006, 04:56 PM
saywhat2

The odds are simply not there to make this call.
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Muxy

If you are even in a dilema with low PP's justl ook at the PFR and you need 10x more that raise to call it for implied odd's peroposes.

IE: 4x raise at 25nl. Person better have 10 behind.
05-23-2006, 09:21 PM
givememyleg

Get out of the way of a raise/reraise with this hand. You don't close the action.
05-23-2006, 11:00 PM
WhooFleuryScores

FOLD CITY............
05-24-2006, 12:24 PM
BankItDrew

Raise it up and represent AA.
05-24-2006, 01:19 PM
ihategnomes

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItPayette

Raise it up and represent AA.

Are you limping behind a limper with AA?
05-24-2006, 01:22 PM
givememyleg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItPayette

Raise it up and represent AA.

Get outta dodge! :wink:

Patented Greg Raymer approach. Call a raise, if it gets reraised and the initial raiser folds, move allin.
05-24-2006, 03:03 PM
BankItDrew

If it was a pair of 3's with a heart or spade I'd fold.