400bb deep top 2

Vill is 61/20 and seems pretty decent despite his large vpip.


***** Hand History for Game 4616118434 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 29, 02:08:26 ET 2006
Table Table 107427 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $1147.47 )
Seat 5: Destinye9 ( $771.05 )
Seat 6: Bigsmitty14 ( $68.15 )
Seat 1: oaklandak ( $28.15 )
Seat 2: cjh13 ( $191 )
Seat 3: infantry1010 ( $76 )
infantry1010 posts small blind [$1].
lolYouFoldEZ posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lolYouFoldEZ [ 6h 8s ]
Destinye9 calls [$2].
Bigsmitty14 calls [$2].
oaklandak folds.
cjh13 folds.
infantry1010 calls [$1].
lolYouFoldEZ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 8c, 6c ]
infantry1010 checks.
lolYouFoldEZ bets [$8].
Destinye9 raises [$16].
Bigsmitty14 folds.
infantry1010 folds.
lolYouFoldEZ raises [$47].
Destinye9 raises [$78].
lolYouFoldEZ calls [$39].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
lolYouFoldEZ checks.
Destinye9 bets [$200].
lolYouFoldEZ folds.
Destinye9 does not show cards.
Destinye9 wins $393

i think you played it pretty good

cool, I really just want people to see my 600bb stack. Thanks for popping into my thread.

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Originally Posted by Irisheyes

Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $1147.47 )

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WOW did everyone see this, amazing!

Hey you're embarrasing me now.

Fold after the re-re-re-raise on the flop? A 6 might not even be an out if villain has 88.

If you fold top 2 here, then you should do the same with 44.

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Originally Posted by johnny_fish

If you fold top 2 here, then you should do the same with 44.

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Maybe.
1) top 2 is beat by bottom set, so that's one more "good" hand he can have.
2) a 4 or or runnner-runner pairs >6 (i.e. 77/99..) counterfeits you vs. an overpair.
3) 444 has more outs to beat 57 straight.

As always, a read helps.

yeah id say you are probably beat...tho i doubt he would bet the pot with the str8 on the turn. Trip 4s look likely, he doesnt seem shy about betting so i doubt he limped with a high pocket pair preflop. Chances of him having set 8s or sixs are REMOTE, i can only see those trip 4s as a likely hand, very tough lay down but probably the correct one.

lol at that guys dumb minraises on the flop. basically you know you're behind after that crap but you still get a great price on the turn card after that final minraise he gives you. i definitely make that last call there too and hope to spike a 6 0r 8 on turn, otherwise check/fold to a large bet from mr. minrazor. who knows he might have even given you even better odds w. another minraise on the turn lol.

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Originally Posted by alias2211

lol at that guys dumb minraises on the flop. basically you know you're behind after that crap but you still get a great price on the turn card after that final minraise he gives you. i definitely make that last call there too and hope to spike a 6 0r 8 on turn, otherwise check/fold to a large bet from mr. minrazor. who knows he might have even given you even better odds w. another minraise on the turn lol.

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When I saw the first minraise I thought flush draw immediatly so I reraised the guy. Then when he re-reraised me I fighured set but I was getting such a good price I figured I'd see the turn.

Ya possibly I should have bet 10 on the flop and called his raise to 20 lol.


ok, ty all.

<4:1 with ~4 outs? You are probably a better than 4:1 to win at show down, but you have to fold turn if you miss and he bets.

I guess you have implied odds what with the huge stacks.
I don't hate the call, just thinking that if you are going to fold to an overcard and a bet, may as well save the $40.

Also... do people really min/raise flushdraws on the flop??? Bizzaro.

I would just call the flop raise and lead a blank turn. With stacks this deep and you being oop, I don't like inflating the pot with 2 streets of betting left, when you may be drawing to 2-4 outs if behind. Plus your hand can't really stand a lot of heat, so I'd be looking to control the pot size here.