What hand am I repping here?

This hand made me sad.
So im posting it as a remind to never do it again.

I do have a question however, what hand does it look like I have here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($29.85)
Hero ($87.28)
SB ($23.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with XX
SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero raises to $1, SB (poster) calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($6.25) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $5.

River: ($24.25) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.25, SB calls $11.30 (All-In).

Final Pot: $47.80

looks like a fine play for 400nl 6max, with a read that the op can fold TPTK, but I dont thnk trying to float on a 10nl table is going to work very well.

haha, wrong time wrong place, wrong opponent.

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

haha, wrong time wrong place, wrong opponent.

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ya i figured

All i know is that i couldve made gabe fold!

You had random stealing trash, tried to represent something better than TP but A5o took the pot.

Just value bet them to death.

Gabe doesn't fold. He pushes.

i think if u were trying to rep the dime flush, bet more on the turn...it smells of bluff.

raise the flop and be done with the and, dont put up with that leading into you shit

Raise more on the turn if you're going to make this play.

I've found that bluffing donk bettors is not a very good idea, since they usually suck at poker.

your turn bluff priced him in to call down for stacks.

wat if i DID have the diamond flush?
what is the correct turn raise then?

and if I didnt have the diamond flush, wat is the correct turn raise to bluff?

i dont know that trying to bluff on this turn is so wise but it would be to something like 10~12, a callable raise that is big enough to commit you both.

If you have the flush, I can see raising it to 10~12 since that'd be pot sized or better.

Isnt it wierd, that i would be playing air and flushes the same?

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

i dont know that trying to bluff on this turn is so wise but it would be to something like 10~12, a callable raise that is big enough to commit you both.

If you have the flush, I can see raising it to 10~12 since that'd be pot sized or better.

Isnt it wierd, that i would be playing air and flushes the same?

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thats the entire question/ point of the thread =)

thanks for the advice.

I dont really like this play. Because of the effective stacks the riverbet isnt going to be big enough [in relation to the pot] to make him fold anything he called with on the turn. If I am goin to "make a move" then I raise his flop bet into me, that has a much better chance of getting a fold than this line and you are risking less.

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Originally Posted by andy-akb

I dont really like this play. Because of the effective stacks the riverbet isnt going to be big enough [in relation to the pot] to make him fold anything he called with on the turn. If I am goin to "make a move" then I raise his flop bet into me, that has a much better chance of getting a fold than this line and you are risking less.

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the board isnt scary enough to make him fold an Ace on the flop
and raising the flop isnt a godo way to rep the flush that i hope im going to hit.

at the very least thats wat i was thinking.

If you want to take the pot down, I think a turn push is best. It gives you the most FE, and makes it tough for anything less than top 2 to call you. On the river, you might as well give up. He's probably not folding any made hand for a 1/2 pot bet here, given that he called your turn raise. But, at 25nl I wouldn't try to get fancy like this, unless of course you have a read that this guy can make tough laydowns.

May be way off her espeically reading your posts. however you may just have TT,jj kk with a heart with a desperate bluff hoping he folds his ace on the turn? Maybe this why i suck ;)

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Originally Posted by vqc

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Originally Posted by andy-akb

I dont really like this play. Because of the effective stacks the riverbet isnt going to be big enough [in relation to the pot] to make him fold anything he called with on the turn. If I am goin to "make a move" then I raise his flop bet into me, that has a much better chance of getting a fold than this line and you are risking less.

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the board isnt scary enough to make him fold an Ace on the flop
and raising the flop isnt a godo way to rep the flush that i hope im going to hit.

at the very least thats wat i was thinking.

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Given these stacks your weak bets arent going to be scary enough to get him to fold an ace either. Basically, if he has an ace I dont think he is folding, if he doesnt have one then he will fold to a flop raise and we could take the pot there.

Is raising when an OOP villain leads into me when I was the PFRer a leak? Often times their lead is just an attempt to take down the pot there because they put you on a bluff, seeing how they respond also gives you some good information.

I don't believe the flush. I'll tell you why...
You raised 10x PF, so obviously the range starts at AA and playing 3 handed it could go down from there to about JJ/TT, big Aces and maybe KQs. That's where I start not having a read. Then the flop hits with an A and 2 diamonds and you just call the lead-out bet. OK, at this point I'm thinking slowplaying a set...but that's dumb with the obvious flush draw. So then I put you on A-low. You got a piece of the flop and hoping for some help. I don't put you on any of the AK/ AQ combos, suited or off, because offsuit is raising this flop because of the draw, and the Ad is on the board (so I should say I don't put you on AK/AQ suited diamonds). KK - JJ is raising this too IMHO, I'm looking to take down the pot now, my one pair is not looking too good with an overcard and flush draw. So maybe with the call I'm thinking KQs or something similiar...maybe.

Turn: The flush card hits so I have to at least think about the flush...but it's the Qd, which is a bad card for you. It significantly narrows the range of hands you could have raised with, again assuming no read so not pegging you as a LAG, to KJs given your flop call and you trying now to get me to believe you have the flush. There is also the possibility you could have had QQ, called the flop bet and hit a set and thought you were good even with the flush on the board. I don't give this line much credence though because Villian bet both the flop and turn...maybe he hit the flush? That's enough to make me call him down unless the board pairs with my set. So at this point most likely you have air with the slight possibility that you were playing suited garbage and got lucky or KJs and eeked out the flush. In either case, I probably have A-weak or a weak flush so I'm calling this because I think I'm ahead and want to showdown and see.

River: This is a great card for me. Not to mention that with 2/3rds of my stack all ready in, I can't possibly throw this away.

I think the main problem you have here is the texture of the flop. You want me to believe PF that you have a great hand, but then post-flop you want me to think you're drawing to the flush, yet the Ad is on the board and the turn brings the Qd. My thinking is you have to have one of those cards in your hand to both raise preflop and get hit with the flush draw. Since it's obvious you don't, your whole betting line doesn't make any sense to me. That's why you were called down IF villan was a thinking Op. If you held KJs or suited garbage...then hey...lesson learned.

the SB was 10 cents, the BB was 25, therefore I raised 4xBB preflop

Um...is it still called camel toe when it's an Asian chick?

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...8b94968fc4.jpg

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Originally Posted by vqc

the SB was 10 cents, the BB was 25, therefore I raised 4xBB preflop

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Ooops. My bad...read that as .05/.10. You know how long it took me to write that???? Now I have to re-edit the entire thing!

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Originally Posted by Warpe

Um...is it still called camel toe when it's an Asian chick?

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...8b94968fc4.jpg

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two great walls of china?