Another big fold

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08-12-2006, 10:38 PM
Cocco_Bill

Another big fold

Dons is 24/10 and Lannyboy is 24/6 over a lot of hands. Blunder?

Game # 400553545 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 2/4 - Table "Viseu"

Players(max 6):
Cocco_Bill (EUR 551.85 in seat 1)
sorcan (EUR 1,344.84 in seat 2)
GAMBLER62 (EUR 298.00 in seat 3)
capt23 (EUR 150.00 in seat 4)
LannyBoy (EUR 172.74 in seat 5)
-DonS- (EUR 418.85 in seat 6)

Dealer: LannyBoy
Small Blind: -DonS- (2.00)
Big Blind: Cocco_Bill (4.00)

Cocco_Bill was dealt: :Td: - :Th:

sorcan Call (4.00)
GAMBLER62 Fold
LannyBoy Call (4.00)
-DonS- Raise (18.00)
Cocco_Bill Call (16.00)
sorcan Call (16.00)
LannyBoy Call (16.00)

Flop :Qc: - :Tc: - :Kc:

-DonS- Bet (60.00)
Cocco_Bill Call (60.00)
sorcan Fold
LannyBoy All-In (152.74)
-DonS- All-In (338.85)
Cocco_Bill Fold
-DonS- Payback (246.11)

Turn :Qc: - :Tc: - :Kc: - :2h:
River :Qc: - :Tc: - :Kc: - :2h: - :Ts:

Game ended 2006-08-12 02:26:30 GMT+01:00
08-12-2006, 10:44 PM
johnny_fish

I don't like this fold.
08-12-2006, 11:02 PM
Cocco_Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

I don't like this fold.

What hand ranges do you put them on, whats the equity for the best case scenario?
08-13-2006, 02:18 AM
bdawg56kg

Ugh, you have to call with those odds. You're basically putting DonS on KK or QQ (if he has a flush or straight you have odds to call and fill up). I can see him shoving with AcAx, AcKx, JcJx, etc to isolate with the shorty.

I'd also raise his $60 lead and call a push obv.
08-13-2006, 02:27 AM
Cocco_Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Ugh, you have to call with those odds. You're basically putting DonS on KK or QQ (if he has a flush or straight you have odds to call and fill up). I can see him shoving with AcAx, AcKx, JcJx, etc to isolate with the shorty.

I'd also raise his $60 lead and call a push obv.

bigstack had AcAs and smallstack KQ. I needed to risk 338 for a 1005 pot. My equity here is 38% of the pot. So a call is marginally +EV if it was played face up. I risk almost drawing dead to a made flush/straight + overset combo.

This is no way an easy call, its marginal at best.
08-13-2006, 02:38 AM
bdawg56kg

Oops, my bad. I saw the "-DonS- Payback (246.11) " and thought that's how much you needed to call. Meh, yeah it's a tough spot, but I still stand by raising his flop lead.
08-14-2006, 07:48 PM
Cocco_Bill

This is what Taylor Caby known as Greenplastic on Ultimatebet had to say about the hand.

second hand - the players you are playing are obviously pretty weak, given their stats. however, they are both all in ahead of you here, and you have less than 1/4 a buyin invested, i think at best here you are up against 2 different hands that could draw out on you (straight, flush draws, or both). you are likely up against one made hand (straight or flush).

i would pitch the hand here, i think. id like to see what some mid stakes guys think though.

tc