How to own a fish HU (lc)

These were played on party 25nl with the stoopid reverse blinds for HU. I played it on my roomates account, because he was running bad and he wanted me to pull him out and bring him back to even on the day. So, partially with the help of this table (which was 10 max, but eventually broke down to HU), I was able to pull him from being down one buyin to being up two. Hope y'all enjoy this. Feel free to make comments.

Notice how at the end he goes on suicide tilt and pushes every hand.

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $35.19
BB: $26.66

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 5:club: T:club:
Renton calls, BB raises to $1, Renton calls.

Flop: 4:heart: K:diamond: 2:heart: ($2, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $2, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $2 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $2

******* Hand 2 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $27.56
Renton: $34.19

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 2:heart: Q:spade:
SB raises to $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 3 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $33.94
BB: $27.81

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 7:diamond: Q:diamond:
Renton calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6:spade: K:club: 2:diamond: ($0.5, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $0.5, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.5 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 4 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $28.06
Renton: $33.69

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 7:heart: 4:club:
SB raises to $1, Renton raises to $3.5, SB raises all-in $27.06, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $24.56 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $7

******* Hand 5 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $30.19
BB: $31.56

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 8:heart: K:spade:
Renton raises to $1, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 6 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $31.31
Renton: $30.44

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 5:club: J:diamond:
SB raises to $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 7 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $30.19
BB: $31.56

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with A:spade: 5:heart:
Renton raises to $1, BB calls.

Flop: 9:spade: A:diamond: 3:heart: ($2, 2 players)
Renton bets $1.3, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.3 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $2

******* Hand 8 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $30.56
Renton: $31.09

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 5:club: 5:spade:
SB calls, Renton raises to $1.25, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $1 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 9 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $31.34
BB: $30.31

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with A:diamond: 7:spade:
Renton raises to $1.25, BB calls.

Flop: A:club: 2:diamond: 8:club: ($2.5, 2 players)
Renton bets $1.8, BB calls.

Turn: 8:diamond: ($6.1, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $1, Renton calls.

River: 4:diamond: ($8.1, 2 players)
Renton bets $4, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $4 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $8.1

******* Hand 10 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $26.26
Renton: $34.99

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 4:club: 8:heart:
SB raises to $0.75, Renton calls.

Flop: T:diamond: 4:heart: 5:heart: ($1.5, 2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Renton calls.

Turn: K:diamond: ($2.5, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $1 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2.5

******* Hand 11 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $33.74
BB: $27.41

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with A:diamond: 2:heart:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 12 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $27.51
Renton: $33.64

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 2:spade: Q:spade:
SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 13 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $33.74
BB: $27.41

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 2:heart: T:diamond:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 14 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $27.51
Renton: $33.64

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 8:diamond: 9:spade:
SB calls, Renton checks.

Flop: A:heart: 2:diamond: J:club: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 15 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $33.39
BB: $27.76

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with Q:heart: 3:heart:
Renton raises to $1, BB calls.

Flop: 6:spade: 6:club: T:spade: ($2, 2 players)
Renton bets $1.25, BB calls.

Turn: 4:club: ($4.5, 2 players)
Renton bets $3, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $3 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $4.5

******* Hand 16 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $25.51
Renton: $35.44

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with T:heart: 5:heart:
SB calls, Renton checks.

Flop: 8:club: A:diamond: 7:heart: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton checks.

Turn: J:heart: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Renton calls.

River: 4:heart: ($1.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton bets $4, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $4 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $1.5

******* Hand 17 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $36.14
BB: $24.76

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 8:club: K:club:
Renton raises to $1, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 18 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $24.51
Renton: $36.39

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 9:spade: 8:spade:
SB calls, Renton raises to $1, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 19 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $36.64
BB: $24.26

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with T:diamond: 7:club:
Renton calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9:spade: 8:spade: J:spade: ($0.5, 2 players)
Renton bets $0.4, BB calls.

Turn: T:spade: ($1.3, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $0.75, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $1.3

******* Hand 20 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $24.86
Renton: $35.99

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with J:club: 7:spade:
SB calls, Renton checks.

Flop: 6:heart: 3:spade: A:heart: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton bets $0.4, SB calls.

Turn: 3:club: ($1.3, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton bets $1.25, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.25 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $1.3

******* Hand 21 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $36.59
BB: $24.21

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with T:club: T:heart:
Renton raises to $1, BB raises to $1.75, Renton calls.

Flop: 4:spade: Q:heart: K:heart: ($3.5, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB checks.

Turn: 7:heart: ($3.5, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $0.5, Renton calls.

River: 3:spade: ($4.5, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB checks.

Results:
Final pot: $4.5
Renton shows Tc Th
BB shows 6c Ks

******* Hand 22 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $26.26
Renton: $34.34

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 9:spade: J:spade:
SB calls, Renton raises to $1, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 23 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $34.59
BB: $26.01

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with K:spade: 4:club:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 24 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $26.11
Renton: $34.49

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 8:club: 7:diamond:
SB raises to $0.5, Renton calls.

Flop: T:diamond: K:heart: 8:heart: ($1, 2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Renton calls.

Turn: 3:diamond: ($2, 2 players)
SB bets $2, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $2 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2

******* Hand 25 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $33.49
BB: $27.01

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 8:diamond: 3:heart:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 26 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $27.11
Renton: $33.39

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 3:spade: 3:diamond:
SB calls, Renton raises to $1, SB raises to $2.25, Renton calls.

Flop: K:spade: 6:heart: 7:club: ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton checks.

Turn: 7:spade: ($4.5, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Renton calls.

River: 8:diamond: ($6.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton checks.

Results:
Final pot: $6.5
SB shows Th Qh
Renton shows 3s 3d

******* Hand 27 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $36.34
BB: $23.86

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with J:heart: 5:spade:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 28 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $23.96
Renton: $36.24

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 6:heart: 6:club:
SB calls, Renton raises to $1, SB calls.

Flop: 2:spade: Q:club: 9:diamond: ($2, 2 players)
SB checks, Renton bets $1.25, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.25 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $2

******* Hand 29 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $37.14
BB: $22.96

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 5:club: 7:diamond:
Renton calls, BB checks.

Flop: 7:club: 4:club: Q:heart: ($0.5, 2 players)
Renton checks, BB bets $0.75, Renton calls.

Turn: 5:heart: ($2, 2 players)
Renton bets $2, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $2 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $2

******* Hand 30 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $21.96
Renton: $38.04

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 6:diamond: 5:club:
SB raises to $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 31 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $37.79
BB: $22.21

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 7:diamond: 2:heart:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 32 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $22.31
Renton: $37.69

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 7:spade: T:spade:
SB raises to $1, Renton calls.

Flop: 8:spade: 9:heart: K:club: ($2, 2 players)
SB bets $2, Renton calls.

Turn: K:diamond: ($6, 2 players)
SB bets $2, Renton calls.

River: 2:diamond: ($10, 2 players)
SB bets $2, Renton raises to $10, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $8 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $14
Renton shows 7s Ts

******* Hand 33 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $43.99
BB: $15.31

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 3:diamond: T:spade:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 34 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $15.41
Renton: $43.89

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 9:heart: 2:club:
SB calls, Renton checks.

Flop: 8:club: T:club: J:heart: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $1 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 35 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $43.64
BB: $15.66

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 3:spade: A:heart:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 36 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $15.76
Renton: $43.54

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 2:heart: K:diamond:
SB raises to $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 37 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $43.29
BB: $16.01

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 9:heart: K:diamond:
Renton raises to $1, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 38 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $15.76
Renton: $43.54

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with Q:diamond: 2:spade:
SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to Renton.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 39 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $43.64
BB: $15.66

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with K:club: 6:diamond:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 40 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $15.76
Renton: $43.54

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 2:heart: T:spade:
SB raises to $2, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 41 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $43.29
BB: $16.01

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 2:club: 8:spade:
Renton folds, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.1

******* Hand 42 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $16.11
Renton: $43.19

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 2:club: 2:diamond:
SB raises all-in $16.01, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $15.86 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 43 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $42.94
BB: $16.36

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with 2:heart: 4:heart:
Renton raises to $0.75, BB raises all-in $16.11, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $15.61 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $1.5

******* Hand 44 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $17.11
Renton: $42.19

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 4:diamond: 3:club:
SB raises all-in $17.01, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $16.86 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $0.5

******* Hand 45 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Renton: $41.94
BB: $17.36

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is SB with A:heart: Q:club:
Renton raises to $1.5, BB raises all-in $17.11, Renton calls.

Flop: 2:club: 8:diamond: Q:diamond: ($34.72, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.72)

Turn: J:club: ($34.72, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.72)

River: 3:spade: ($34.72, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $34.72)

Results:
Final pot: $34.72
Renton shows Ah Qc
BB doesn't show Ac 4d

nh sir

nice on well played. Just out of interest why the fold here. Is an open ended straight not worth a look?

Stack sizes:
SB: $15.41
Renton: $43.89

Pre-flop: (2 players) Renton is BB with 9 2
SB calls, Renton checks.

Flop: 8 T J ($0.5, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Renton folds.
Uncalled bets: $1 returned to SB

I've been trying to work on my heads up game..

Am I right in saying that you took this down through applying as much pressure as you could, giving him the constant threat of being raised?

He seems to enjoy laying down a lot on the turn as well, I see that you picked this up and put out a few turn bluffs. wp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillburForce

nice on well played. Just out of interest why the fold here. Is an open ended straight not worth a look?

I figured it was a pretty easy fold considering I was getting 3:2 on my call (pretty horrible pot odds), and his stack was too short to give me very good implied odds. Also, 1 card straights don't tend to get paid off too well. I just would rather fold and continue to lean on his now short stack in more solid situations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash256

I've been trying to work on my heads up game..

Am I right in saying that you took this down through applying as much pressure as you could, giving him the constant threat of being raised?

He seems to enjoy laying down a lot on the turn as well, I see that you picked this up and put out a few turn bluffs. wp.

Ya he really let me push him around. I basically raised pretty much every button, then I bluffed him out of a big pot (hand #32), of course showing him the bluff, and then he just went on fucking monkey tilt and threw the match to me.

I had a HU game last night against someone who raised every time he had a good hand, called every time he had a medium hand, and folded the flop every time he didn't hit. And yet HE was the fucker who won because it was nigh on impossible to get anything out of him and when I made my two pair, he hit trips. I made a few £ back and then quit because I could se myself tilting like Renton's villain does at the end above.

I'm not sure if you pwned this player...I mean you won but it was very straight up. You did show the one bluff which as I read I thought "I hope he shows". Other than that there wasn't much action. A short stack should push Ax heads up - he just ran into a higher Ace. Congrats regardless.

The one thing I did like was you were next to impossible to get any extra $$ out of. The str8 draw is a good example. Most people would call down to the river with that hand HU and like you mention, you may not get paid off when you get there.

Out of curiosity, how much rake did this session cost? Rake in HU cash games at low levels is a BB/hr killer. Then again the number of poor players you profit from can make up for it.

If you like HU then try some HU SNGs. The rising blinds make it interesting and the rake is relatively lower.

we payed about 1.20 in rake. Not too terribly bad considering my edge over this player. I really just played this for fun though.

I didn't think I really owned him, but just the psychological victory was pretty substantial. I got him so pissed that he pushed like 6 consecutive hands. And I really hate his push on the last hand, even though he does have an ace. He has to know that I am only calling him with hands that have him dominated.

Why did you fold hand 19 on the river? Were you worried that he had a higher straight?

J

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Originally Posted by jameseyb

Why did you fold hand 19 on the river? Were you worried that he had a higher straight?

J

Yes, or any spade. And I folded it on the turn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jameseyb

Why did you fold hand 19 on the river? Were you worried that he had a higher straight?

J

I think you misread that. He folded on the turn when the fish called a 3-spaded flop and a fourth spade hit the turn. He's guaranteed to be behind now.